2500 Gas v Diesel
06-17-2012 | 09:31 AM
#1
2500 Gas v Diesel
So...just started shopping for 2012 and have some questions...shopping both GMC and Chev:
1. originally intended to get diesel, but told that mileage is essentially the same? I dont intend to tow more than 10k lbs, so mainly its a mileage issue for me;
2. only diff between the SLT and Denali is that the Chev can be bot with long box crew cab option? They both seem identical trim/package other than this...is there any quality/dependability diffs?
3. why is the Chev so much cheaper fot identical options according to websites? (priced out to ~$5-6k diff)
I currently own 3 GM's and drive an 08 Tundra, so I understand GM products and happy with them. This new truck would be a replacement of the Tundra (its fine, just ready for a change!)
Thnx for all the help!
1. originally intended to get diesel, but told that mileage is essentially the same? I dont intend to tow more than 10k lbs, so mainly its a mileage issue for me;
2. only diff between the SLT and Denali is that the Chev can be bot with long box crew cab option? They both seem identical trim/package other than this...is there any quality/dependability diffs?
3. why is the Chev so much cheaper fot identical options according to websites? (priced out to ~$5-6k diff)
I currently own 3 GM's and drive an 08 Tundra, so I understand GM products and happy with them. This new truck would be a replacement of the Tundra (its fine, just ready for a change!)
Thnx for all the help!
06-18-2012 | 11:06 AM
#2
my co worker bought a 2011 gmc 4x4 duramax crew cab and he says he gets 16 to 18 highway and mileage doesnt change much when his 37' camper is behind it. I really dont think a 2500 gas is gonna get that kind of mileage. I guess the decision should be if the 5 grand plus extra is worth it to you for the deisel.
06-18-2012 | 12:55 PM
#3
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dieselplace.com is a great GM diesel forum. You can find some numbers there if you like proof.
As far as economy goes I think the diesel is going to be better numbers wise. You will probably be around 3 mpg better fuel economy with the diesel, on the highway or towing for the lifetime of the vehicle. Not just resetting the computer and coasting down hill for 10 miles. But you have to factor in the added fuel price difference and DEF costs too. Plus oil changes and filters. I've never been able to financially justify a diesel on paper ever. It's always more expensive no matter how you look at it.
The only real reason to buy a diesel is if:
A) you tow something really, really heavy constantly, not just over the summer several times and a couple times in the winter.
B) you tow more than the gas truck can handle
C) really want to own a diesel because that's simply what you want to have.
Good luck. If it was me I'd buy the gas and throw a dyno tune in it and do all kinds of fun stuff every day with the money I saved.
As far as economy goes I think the diesel is going to be better numbers wise. You will probably be around 3 mpg better fuel economy with the diesel, on the highway or towing for the lifetime of the vehicle. Not just resetting the computer and coasting down hill for 10 miles. But you have to factor in the added fuel price difference and DEF costs too. Plus oil changes and filters. I've never been able to financially justify a diesel on paper ever. It's always more expensive no matter how you look at it.
The only real reason to buy a diesel is if:
A) you tow something really, really heavy constantly, not just over the summer several times and a couple times in the winter.
B) you tow more than the gas truck can handle
C) really want to own a diesel because that's simply what you want to have.
Good luck. If it was me I'd buy the gas and throw a dyno tune in it and do all kinds of fun stuff every day with the money I saved.
06-18-2012 | 02:34 PM
#5
Thnx for responses guys...I'll let u know what I decide.
06-18-2012 | 11:47 PM
#6
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Joined: Apr 2012
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From: British Columbia
dieselplace.com is a great GM diesel forum. You can find some numbers there if you like proof.
As far as economy goes I think the diesel is going to be better numbers wise. You will probably be around 3 mpg better fuel economy with the diesel, on the highway or towing for the lifetime of the vehicle. Not just resetting the computer and coasting down hill for 10 miles. But you have to factor in the added fuel price difference and DEF costs too. Plus oil changes and filters. I've never been able to financially justify a diesel on paper ever. It's always more expensive no matter how you look at it.
The only real reason to buy a diesel is if:
A) you tow something really, really heavy constantly, not just over the summer several times and a couple times in the winter.
B) you tow more than the gas truck can handle
C) really want to own a diesel because that's simply what you want to have.
Good luck. If it was me I'd buy the gas and throw a dyno tune in it and do all kinds of fun stuff every day with the money I saved.
As far as economy goes I think the diesel is going to be better numbers wise. You will probably be around 3 mpg better fuel economy with the diesel, on the highway or towing for the lifetime of the vehicle. Not just resetting the computer and coasting down hill for 10 miles. But you have to factor in the added fuel price difference and DEF costs too. Plus oil changes and filters. I've never been able to financially justify a diesel on paper ever. It's always more expensive no matter how you look at it.
The only real reason to buy a diesel is if:
A) you tow something really, really heavy constantly, not just over the summer several times and a couple times in the winter.
B) you tow more than the gas truck can handle
C) really want to own a diesel because that's simply what you want to have.
Good luck. If it was me I'd buy the gas and throw a dyno tune in it and do all kinds of fun stuff every day with the money I saved.
I agree! everything with a diesel is x2. Sure u will get better mileage and it will last longer but you're paying for it. So if u dont NEED the diesel its a wasted investment IMO. Take your extra money and save it, or put it into extras for the gas.
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06-21-2012 | 01:39 AM
#9
I honestly get 22mpg on the highway with my LBZ dmax and about 17 in town. However mines an 06 LBZ with EFI live, exhaust, intake, downpipe and lift pump. I did get 22.6mpg one highway trip before the lift pump. I lost about .5mpg with the lift pump but oh well it was worth it for performance.
Now the newer LML's i don't know how the mileage is going for them, but with more emission crap on them I doubt they will give the numbers I'm getting. If you plan to ditch the DPF and tune it then I bet you will see great gains in the MPG's
Now the newer LML's i don't know how the mileage is going for them, but with more emission crap on them I doubt they will give the numbers I'm getting. If you plan to ditch the DPF and tune it then I bet you will see great gains in the MPG's
06-27-2012 | 04:38 PM
#10
Personally I love diesel. I love the sound, smell, and the ride. We've got a customer with a 2012 2500HD getting 19.7 mpg out of his new dmax (and he doesn't drive it like a pepaw), and it's an awesome ride FACTORY. Yea you have DPF, and yea oil change is higher, but they're amazing vehicles. The tranny is solid as a rock, and the dmax hasn't been an engine to fail really since it's debute. If it where me, I'd buy the Dmax. We've got 2, 2004 had to have injectors at 140,000 miles (GM warranteed fully), and the 2008 has yet to have any problems with 87,000 miles.
IMO, and I've had both 2500 with a 6.0 and the 6.6, and the diesel pulls so much better. What would lug the gas burner down feels like a breeze for the max. None of that bogging down ****, our 2008 3500 pulls my truck on a 24' dovetail like it's nothing. Just a little input, I see a lot of diesel-haters so I figured I'd let my Dmax lovin self get a piece of the action haha.. GL!
IMO, and I've had both 2500 with a 6.0 and the 6.6, and the diesel pulls so much better. What would lug the gas burner down feels like a breeze for the max. None of that bogging down ****, our 2008 3500 pulls my truck on a 24' dovetail like it's nothing. Just a little input, I see a lot of diesel-haters so I figured I'd let my Dmax lovin self get a piece of the action haha.. GL!