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Old 05-09-2009, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 00ChevyScott
What a stupid question.
Chill bro, not stupid at all :nunchuk1:

I dyno'd just over 303 SAE rwhp with intake and catback with my l33iirc. Roller dyno numbers will vary with gear and tire size, right?
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elaborate on this. If i went to the dyno and istead of using my 20's I used a 16-17" tire I may show an increase in power according to the dyno? I often wonered about this. Give me a little more on this, please.
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yeah, I think Nelson did a test on this a few years ago on an AV. It gained something like 45hp just from a tire change.....anyone remember the specifics?
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My LM7 with Tune, Transmission, 3:42's, Full Exhaust, and 275/45/20's made 280whp/290wtq on a Mustang Dyno.
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I went back to the dyno about a week ago and took a set of 16 inch wheels with 265/75/16's and gained 28 rwhp over the 20 inch wheels with 275/55/20's. I just wanted to see what a difference it would make. When I had my truck dynoed the first time with the 20's the guy said it would have made more power with some 16's and he was right!! When I buy some drag radials I'm going to get some 28 inch tall ones on a 15 inch rim.
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Originally Posted by trever1t
yeah, I think Nelson did a test on this a few years ago on an AV. It gained something like 45hp just from a tire change.....anyone remember the specifics?
I read the test on a forum a few months ago.. cant remember which one it was.. Dont he have a forum of his own??
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yes LS1Truck but this test was a few years ago for sure.
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now that i can be more specific (i guess)
i knew there would be a few that would be dumb founded or floored by the question because they prolly spent a bunch of coins and went just over 300 RWHP by a small margin
i put my truck on the dyno, i was showed "SAE" level. the tuner told me that to him "SAE"was what meant the most to him, as far as HP levels are concerned, as a tuner.
my truck put down 255-298 to the rear with a "tune only".
3.73s 275/45/20s new plugsTR55s ,msd wires, a "WIX" paper filter and a new wix fuel filter.
A/F at 13.3-13.6.
at 12.4-12.6 it did 260-281 but was detonating at 5200 on up.
my next option of making some more power was doing "electric fan" and "cat-back"
i dont see why 300Hp could not be achieved.
i just thought it was a legit question and a achievable goal.
GM has always lied about their the HP from the factory.
thanks
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well all dynos are NOT created equally.... Dyno Jets (over inflated numbers) are only good for WOT sweeps and have zero load on the rollers therefore put out bigger numbers. A loaded dyno (tuners choice dyno) ie dyno dynamics. etc, put a load on the rollers which help for steady state tuning and more accurate real world rwhp/rwtq numbers, not inflated numbers
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Originally Posted by mred
now that i can be more specific (i guess)
i knew there would be a few that would be dumb founded or floored by the question because they prolly spent a bunch of coins and went just over 300 RWHP by a small margin
i put my truck on the dyno, i was showed "SAE" level. the tuner told me that to him "SAE"was what meant the most to him, as far as HP levels are concerned, as a tuner.
my truck put down 255-298 to the rear with a "tune only".
3.73s 275/45/20s new plugsTR55s ,msd wires, a "WIX" paper filter and a new wix fuel filter.
A/F at 12.3-12.6.
at 13.4-13.6 it did 260-281 but was detonating at 5200 on up.
my next option of making some more power was doing "electric fan" and "cat-back"
i dont see why 300Hp could not be achieved.
i just thought it was a legit question and a achievable goal.
GM has always lied about their the HP from the factory.
thanks
Ed
you are actually wrong... obvisously the hp/tq ratings are at the true flywheel (engine dyno) not real wheels... input your drivetrain loss (approx 25% depending on your setup) and you have your correct wheel hp/tq


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