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Old 10-07-2011, 08:46 AM
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13* of timing is giving up a lot of power, you need more timing if your going to make more power. Race gas, e85, or meth will get you there. Don't think your gonna get there on just pump gas. 5* of timing will make a lot more power!

WG's don't make power... They restrict power I've seen 1100hp made with a 38mm WG in the same location as yours.
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Those are still good numbers, I agree on the fuel though. 16 psi is s lot on pump gas, my truck with very similar setup except smaller cam and smaller turbo made 650/646 on a low reading dyno dynamics at 13psi and 21* timing with e85 and meth. Your setup has lots of potential as is, just need a way to get another 4-6* timing in there and it will be a big difference.
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Originally Posted by kbracing96
13* of timing is giving up a lot of power, you need more timing if your going to make more power. Race gas, e85, or meth will get you there. Don't think your gonna get there on just pump gas. 5* of timing will make a lot more power!

WG's don't make power... They restrict power I've seen 1100hp made with a 38mm WG in the same location as yours.
So which e85 run regular gasoline 87 or premium 93 octance? What would you think Noah truck will make more hp?
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Originally Posted by joeyc125
Those are still good numbers, I agree on the fuel though. 16 psi is s lot on pump gas, my truck with very similar setup except smaller cam and smaller turbo made 650/646 on a low reading dyno dynamics at 13psi and 21* timing with e85 and meth. Your setup has lots of potential as is, just need a way to get another 4-6* timing in there and it will be a big difference.
What size of motor, cam and turbo. I'm curious
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Originally Posted by smokeshow
What kind of dyno was it?
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I would think it would be higher aswell. Do you have the 1.10 or 1.32 AR on your turbo? I have the same mods as you except a little bigger cam and I can guarantee I'm over 600 on 13psi.
No, I think .95 AR as not sure.
Originally Posted by kbracing96
13* of timing is giving up a lot of power, you need more timing if your going to make more power. Race gas, e85, or meth will get you there. Don't think your gonna get there on just pump gas. 5* of timing will make a lot more power!

WG's don't make power... They restrict power I've seen 1100hp made with a 38mm WG in the same location as yours.
Thanks!! Gotcha! Also, U see the dyno graphic show tq ?? I think may explain the reason for the torque falling off so badly?? My cam comp 926's are 129lbs on the seat. My friend told me that is no where near enough seat pressure for a turbo @ 15lbs of boost. You should be in the 160lb seat range.
You are probably floating the valves.. Not bashing, my friend just trying to help.. hard to believe him or not.
you need to change to new 925's would of been much better with the seat pressure @ 141 on the seat.
Im stay with 926. I don't know what different between of valve springs numbers for 926 and 925??

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Those are still good numbers, I agree on the fuel though. 16 psi is s lot on pump gas, my truck with very similar setup except smaller cam and smaller turbo made 650/646 on a low reading dyno dynamics at 13psi and 21* timing with e85 and meth. Your setup has lots of potential as is, just need a way to get another 4-6* timing in there and it will be a big difference.
Thanks!! U have good numbers!
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John who tuned on my truck and He explained me reason he don't want to add more than 13* timing. but i want to add few * timing. because I know he is being conservative because its not his and i'm a customer. he has timing on the low side to make sure it doesn't detonate and break something cuz i dont hear it if it starts to detonate so i do. He want make sure my motor is safe. I know my motor will not break but unless have 317 head cylinders are stock. I wish i could have 317 heads to port to get better flow!

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Originally Posted by Go5.3tt06
What size of motor, cam and turbo. I'm curious
Its a 365 (.005" over 6.0) with a 218 218 112 .570" isky cam and a tc76 with a .96 ar hot side.
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Originally Posted by SuperSilverado53
John who tuned on my truck and He explained me reason he don't want to add more than 13* timing. but i want to add few * timing. because I know he is being conservative because its not his and i'm a customer. he has timing on the low side to make sure it doesn't detonate and break something cuz i dont hear it if it starts to detonate so i do. He want make sure my motor is safe. I know my motor will not break but unless have 317 head cylinders are stock. I wish i could have 317 heads to port to get better flow!
I would recommend something like an aeroforce scangauge or similar that can show you if you get knock, you mount it anywhere you could mount a boost gauge etc... Looks like you have a pretty well thought out combination of parts, should make good power with a little tweaking of the tune.
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take it from me, dont get crazy with the timing without meth or e85 with big boost. you WILL break stuff. if your tuner says 13 is all it wants, believe him.
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Originally Posted by joeyc125
I would recommend something like an aeroforce scangauge or similar that can show you if you get knock, you mount it anywhere you could mount a boost gauge etc... Looks like you have a pretty well thought out combination of parts, should make good power with a little tweaking of the tune.
Yes, I have one. Which one?? there have four lists of knock 1, knock 2,3,4 which one ya using ??
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take it from me, dont get crazy with the timing without meth or e85 with big boost. you WILL break stuff. if your tuner says 13 is all it wants, believe him.
All right, I understand. no plm. so meth, If u can explain me for meth how to help turbo make more power ?? Where I can find meth ??


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