i've read that both meth and no2 can erode the coating as well. This is why I was looking at adding them to the spacer that trick makes. That way it would bypass the impellers and maybe even multiply the shot even more. Like how some say that plate kits hit harder than a nozzle. Don't know just brain storming.

 

Small shots don't multiply like larger one will.
N2o is trying to expand blowers are trying to compress. So injecting post blower/ic can raise your boost level.
How much depends on the shot. 50/75 will not raise much if any.
150/200 would be a kick in the pants. This talk about eating coating? How crappy is the coating if nitrous pulls it off. I have heard nitrous eats the coatings and fuel washes the bearings etc etc.
Now methanol I could believe. That is very corrosive.

 

Trick which would u prefer running it pre or post blower?

Aslo, I've only seen guys with blowers run a small shot is there a reason for that or can u run a bigger shot like 100 to 150?

 

Just curious. Were u running the Walbro prior to your huffer? Also, did u change out to 60#'ers just for the spray (or the combo of the 2)? Does that make sense? Oh ya, was that w/. a Radix 112?
Know I gotta go convert that to 1/4.

As supersilverado04 said, I was told a nitrous tune would just be a conservative tune w/. less timing in it. So you wouldn't have to spray everytime u go into boost. Think about it; you'd go broke refilling the bottle & the safety factor involved.

If you're running a Maggie & juice, from most of my reading, stay w/. a 50 or 75 shot. I know it's been posted before, but if IIRC, no one on here is running both & over a 100 shot. I'd believe the person that told me that too.

Even so, when I get my Maggie up & running, if I foresee the need for spray to reach my ET goals, I've no plans to go over 75 shot. Not cause guys aren't over that, but cause I feel I'll be where where I need to be.

The pro to me is u run faster. Cons to doing this? More stress on parts & of course, N2O fillups & kit cost itself. I'd like to see what 50 or 75 dry single jet u go w/.

You shouldn't be spraying under 3k either.
Trever runs both, as does 1Bear. Not sure who else, but he does.

I knew meth was (supposed) to wear the coating off the rotors. I guess this was more serious on earlier generation Maggies. Not sure if that meant a Radix 112 produced in 2004 vs one made in 2010, or if a TVS has better teflon coating. I really to write down some of what I read, so then it doesn't look like hearsay, but I read a bunch, so that'd be a lot of writing. I wasn't real familiar that spray did it too, not as bad at least. While Magnuson may frown on meth & their units, how many have actually seen the pics of potential damage caused? I'd love to see any pics posted, cause 1) I'm curious of before & after meth or for that matter, nitrous. and 2) Cause I'm considering doin this.

Interesting. Very.

On a FI (fuel inj.) ride, I've heard fuel wash isn't an issue like on a carb. I couldn't verify, cause I never had both apart to compare.

 

I was typing my (previous) long post & u fired back first.

I think u need to clarify, from a power standpoint or cause you're concerned about potential coating damage? If the latter, Rick is sayin to go post blower. Cause otherwise, it'd be injected before rotors.

Most everyone on PT I was told doesn't run > 75 shot on a Maggie. See my previous quote to swift700 on who does run both a Maggie & spray.

 

Thanx fast, I was just wondering about that on the tune cause I was taking into account that if u had to spray it all the time I would'nt want to. I was just confused about the tune and keeping it safe in and out of boost and on and off spray. But what u said about having cons. tune and spraying when u want to sounds good to me.

I jumped into this thread cause I want to know how these guy's are running meth and nitrous because I to would also like to run these on my setup in the future. Now Trick said, a big shot like 100 -200 would be a kick in the pants but I have'nt seen where anyone has tried this or if it's doable. If so I'm sure it would be a wild ride.

I was just planning on a 50-75 shot. Would the maggie fuel pump need to be upgraded or just the fuel injecters?

All of this stuff is new to me so the more knowledge I gain the better.

Also how's your build going!

 

I hear ya. Like I said if a Radix alone gets me where I want, no spray for me. I can 100% appreciate that u wanna run it safe off & on boost ( or w/. other goodies), cause I wanna keep my motor together too. I can't afford a new motor. Surely not the way I'd have 1 built if I didn't do it.

Those that run both, a good tune is essential. Heck it's important to maximize even an N/A motor.
My bad, I left out in my previous reply a key point. Goin above the 75, if not over 100shot & u may have disastrous consequences.
It may be doable, but I'm not gonna try it.
Maybe someone has, & of course I can't read or remember every post, but u can try it. The 2 guys that have Maggie's are both TVS powered, run 11's & I have a lotta respect for them. There are prolly others. EvilGMC is doin some interesting things as well.

I can speculate what I'd do as to inj. or fuel pump if u do this, but maybe someone else will chime in. I'd certainly look at inj. duty cycle. Don't wanna overtax em.

I'm learning all the time. I've never gotten into a Gen 3 til just recently. I'nm doin more than I used to & gettin more involved w/. my ride & my knowledge.
My build has not gone along as smooth as I wanted as it pertains to my timeline, but I did get cam, pushrods, & springs done. Timing chain & crank pinned for insurance.

We have similiar builds I see. Well, other than your Radix is on.
Dyno sheet will be up tomorrow in a thread. Track results if I'm not too tired will be up Wed night., if not, on Thur.

 

I'm curious as to how trever1t runs both meth and nitrous. Did'nt he get into the 11's when he had his radix?

My hats off to you on doing your cam and work yourself. I plan on doing a cam swap in the near future but don't think I want to tackle it myself. But then on the other hand finding a good mechanic you can trust these days is getting hard to find. At least in my area anyway.

 

What size jet equals a 50 shot? and a 75?

 

My statements about fuel washing the bearings was talking about blower bearings. ; )

that is what several customers told me a blower company told them when they sprayed our wet shot in top.

I always said how crappy is that design if that's the case. Lol

working on getting me s blower soon.