Can this setup run boost....
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Can this setup run boost....
Hey everyone
My 99 has an lq9 in it, fully bolted. Currently undergoing a t56 swap, but I was looking into adding some forced induction this winter. MY 06 cc has a tvs 1900 running 9 psi, and would love to run a maggie on this truck to, but i know my cam is way to large to even consider one UNLESS I swap cams(which im not 100% apposed to doing)
Here is my list of parts from TSP when i did the lq9(stock bottom end)
199-LS62.5 Precision Race Components CNC Stage 2.5 LS6 Cylinder
Heads, Bare - 62cc Chambers (SERIAL#16923)
1 1,118.00 1,118.00
8 199-202 2.02-Inch Stainless Steel Intake Valve, Per Valve 12.00 96.00
8 199-157 1.57-Inch Stainless Steel Exhaust Valve, Per Valve 12.00 96.00
199-650PRCSpringKit PRC .650' Dual Spring Kit complete with seats, seals, and
retainers
1 289.99 289.99
OTHER ITEMS:
25-Torquer v.3 Texas Speed Torquer V3 Camshaft - 231/234 .643/.598
111 LSA..*Requires Aggressive Double Springs!
1 399.99 399.99
25-73750-1 Texas Speed & Performance 7.3750 Hardened
Chromemoly Pushrod, Per Pushrod
16 6.87438 109.99
Package Price Heads/Cam package Discount -54.98 -54.98
2 28-12589227 GM 6.0L MLS Gasket, PER GASKET 40.00 80.00
1 46-134-3610 ARP Hex Head Bolt Kit, LS2 & NEW 6.0L Blocks ONLY! 113.95 113.95
28-CamGskKit Camshaft Gasket & Bolt Package: GM Timing Cover
Gasket, GM Front Crankshaft Seal, GM Water Pump
Gaskets, GM Harmonic Balancer Bolt
1 53.99 53.99
4 28-12595365 GM LS2 Lifter Tray 8.09 32.36
1 28-12499225 GM LS7 Lifter Kit 139.99 139.99
2 28-12612045 GM LS1 Center-Bolt Valve Cover Gasket 18.79 37.58
25-LS6PortedPump Texas Speed & Performance Ported & Shimmed LS6 Oil
Pump
1 169.99 169.99
1 28-12584922 Oil Pump O-Ring 5.99 5.99
28-LS2ChainSet LS2 Timing Chain, LS2 Timing Chain Upper Sprocket,
LS2 Timing Chain Lower Sprocket
1 109.99 109.99
1 4-13702-KIT COMP Cams LSx Rocker Arm Trunion Upgrade
SO my question is, is my setup to much compression to run boost...
With this setup can i do a blower cam swap and get another tvs, which is the setup i would like the most
or
keep it all the same(if it will work) and run a kb or trick turbo setup....
sorry for all the ...... but my question mark doesnt work lol
My 99 has an lq9 in it, fully bolted. Currently undergoing a t56 swap, but I was looking into adding some forced induction this winter. MY 06 cc has a tvs 1900 running 9 psi, and would love to run a maggie on this truck to, but i know my cam is way to large to even consider one UNLESS I swap cams(which im not 100% apposed to doing)
Here is my list of parts from TSP when i did the lq9(stock bottom end)
199-LS62.5 Precision Race Components CNC Stage 2.5 LS6 Cylinder
Heads, Bare - 62cc Chambers (SERIAL#16923)
1 1,118.00 1,118.00
8 199-202 2.02-Inch Stainless Steel Intake Valve, Per Valve 12.00 96.00
8 199-157 1.57-Inch Stainless Steel Exhaust Valve, Per Valve 12.00 96.00
199-650PRCSpringKit PRC .650' Dual Spring Kit complete with seats, seals, and
retainers
1 289.99 289.99
OTHER ITEMS:
25-Torquer v.3 Texas Speed Torquer V3 Camshaft - 231/234 .643/.598
111 LSA..*Requires Aggressive Double Springs!
1 399.99 399.99
25-73750-1 Texas Speed & Performance 7.3750 Hardened
Chromemoly Pushrod, Per Pushrod
16 6.87438 109.99
Package Price Heads/Cam package Discount -54.98 -54.98
2 28-12589227 GM 6.0L MLS Gasket, PER GASKET 40.00 80.00
1 46-134-3610 ARP Hex Head Bolt Kit, LS2 & NEW 6.0L Blocks ONLY! 113.95 113.95
28-CamGskKit Camshaft Gasket & Bolt Package: GM Timing Cover
Gasket, GM Front Crankshaft Seal, GM Water Pump
Gaskets, GM Harmonic Balancer Bolt
1 53.99 53.99
4 28-12595365 GM LS2 Lifter Tray 8.09 32.36
1 28-12499225 GM LS7 Lifter Kit 139.99 139.99
2 28-12612045 GM LS1 Center-Bolt Valve Cover Gasket 18.79 37.58
25-LS6PortedPump Texas Speed & Performance Ported & Shimmed LS6 Oil
Pump
1 169.99 169.99
1 28-12584922 Oil Pump O-Ring 5.99 5.99
28-LS2ChainSet LS2 Timing Chain, LS2 Timing Chain Upper Sprocket,
LS2 Timing Chain Lower Sprocket
1 109.99 109.99
1 4-13702-KIT COMP Cams LSx Rocker Arm Trunion Upgrade
SO my question is, is my setup to much compression to run boost...
With this setup can i do a blower cam swap and get another tvs, which is the setup i would like the most
or
keep it all the same(if it will work) and run a kb or trick turbo setup....
sorry for all the ...... but my question mark doesnt work lol
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Why do you think your cam is too big for a maggie? With my clacs, you are sitting around 11.6:1 compression which is pretty damn high for any kind of boost. You could get away with 6 lbs probably but at that point, is it even worth the expense?
If you could find some heads with a 70cc+ chamber, you would be much better off.
If you could find some heads with a 70cc+ chamber, you would be much better off.
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Atomic ran a high compression and blower setup for awhile and i believe liked it before he went the turbo route..
If i were you id do one of two things, get thicker gaskets to bring you around 11:1 area, add a small quick spool turbo and boost what you have with 8psi and the t56 would be fun.
Or still get the thicker gaskets, change the cam and get a blower with 8lbs would make for very fun ride also.. just my 2cents, Could always just slap a procharger on there to, but i like the other two options better..
Doesnt matter what you do really, good tuning and octane will determine how well whatever setup you choose works..
If i were you id do one of two things, get thicker gaskets to bring you around 11:1 area, add a small quick spool turbo and boost what you have with 8psi and the t56 would be fun.
Or still get the thicker gaskets, change the cam and get a blower with 8lbs would make for very fun ride also.. just my 2cents, Could always just slap a procharger on there to, but i like the other two options better..
Doesnt matter what you do really, good tuning and octane will determine how well whatever setup you choose works..
Last edited by skolman91; 08-30-2013 at 12:34 AM.
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I was hoping i could do it without removing heads, but t looks like thats my best route. If i have to remove the heads to do gaskets, i might as well jut swap to a head that will be more boost friendly tho right?
I always thought with a aggresive cam it wouldn't work well for the power of a Maggie, am i wrong?
If i could just run a Maggie as is, thas exactly what I'd do. Truck is driven mate 2000km a year, so long term use really isn't a factor. You guys think it would be doable?
I really appreciate the help
I always thought with a aggresive cam it wouldn't work well for the power of a Maggie, am i wrong?
If i could just run a Maggie as is, thas exactly what I'd do. Truck is driven mate 2000km a year, so long term use really isn't a factor. You guys think it would be doable?
I really appreciate the help
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With you setup as is, I think I would run a centrifugal over a positive displacement supercharger to keep the low rpm cylinder pressures down some. That cam is going to bleed off some cylinder pressure and bring the DCR down a good bit (which is more important than SCR). If you are set on a Maggie, I would consider doing a head swap with larger cc chambers and a more boost friendly cam. You can do it as is but tuning and fuel will be the key for it to live.
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With you setup as is, I think I would run a centrifugal over a positive displacement supercharger to keep the low rpm cylinder pressures down some. That cam is going to bleed off some cylinder pressure and bring the DCR down a good bit (which is more important than SCR). If you are set on a Maggie, I would consider doing a head swap with larger cc chambers and a more boost friendly cam. You can do it as is but tuning and fuel will be the key for it to live.