Damn, WTF Whipple?
#21
I have been trying to get some answers on alternatives to my 2.3L compressor, hoping Whipple might have some suggestions. I have maxed this 2.3L pump out as far as I can tell and would love to add a few more cubes. I really cant do anything to the truck because I fear i will lose what little precious boost i have.
I wanted to add exhaust to it but I am afraid if i open it up a little, i will lose even more boost. I only see about 6-7psi MAX with my setup (with intercooler) and I know that 3.3L would wake this baby up a bit. I have a solid SD tune in it and know it could handle some more boost with a new set of injectors and fuel pump.
Anyway, i hop on Whipples site and to my suprise, they dont even offer the 8.1L kits anymore!! Why? Because they dropped the 8.1L from the engine line up? That just sucks ***! I dont want to spend the bucks getting into custom intakes and stuff, but it looks like no one is manufacturing blowers for the 8.1L trucks anymore. Not Kenne Bell, not Whipple, and I assume not Maggy either. Us 496 guys have it hard enough trying keep up with the small block guys and now this........Sorry, just thought I would pop in and wine a little. Maybe its just time to yank off the whipple, buy a 1500 RCSB 4WD, and join the small block team....
I wanted to add exhaust to it but I am afraid if i open it up a little, i will lose even more boost. I only see about 6-7psi MAX with my setup (with intercooler) and I know that 3.3L would wake this baby up a bit. I have a solid SD tune in it and know it could handle some more boost with a new set of injectors and fuel pump.
Anyway, i hop on Whipples site and to my suprise, they dont even offer the 8.1L kits anymore!! Why? Because they dropped the 8.1L from the engine line up? That just sucks ***! I dont want to spend the bucks getting into custom intakes and stuff, but it looks like no one is manufacturing blowers for the 8.1L trucks anymore. Not Kenne Bell, not Whipple, and I assume not Maggy either. Us 496 guys have it hard enough trying keep up with the small block guys and now this........Sorry, just thought I would pop in and wine a little. Maybe its just time to yank off the whipple, buy a 1500 RCSB 4WD, and join the small block team....
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#23
Yeah, I bet opening up the exhaust will do some real good. I know the boost is precious to you, but you know it is pretty simple for FI...get the exhaust OUT, quickly. Maybe even some larger cat's if you don't want to large the cat's. Get er done! (and then throw a 50-75 shot on there)
#24
We have been doing the same thing as you i have installed SW longtubes on a 06 2500hd 8.1 with wipple kit gained 40 whp and 50 wtq on our mustang dyno it made 370 hp and 560 tq all under 5000 rpm and this was through a 6 speed allison . You have to watch the rods are weaker then the ls1 stock stuff as per Raylar. I just built a 525 stroker for this truck forged with Raylar heads and manifold. Expecting 950 hp and 1050 tq at the crank with the whipple as per whipple we can overspin it to 21000 rpm and that should net us 5.5 psi tops . I want to put 2 gt35's on it but the customer want's that instant blower feel . I'll keep you posted on this build and let you know what we come up with . But If I where you I would throw some LT's from SW and a good cat back .
Yeah, sounds like we're in the same boat. Those numbers are real close to my dyno numbers too. I had a few more HP than that but a few less TQ. Are you running a speed density tune with that truck? I am not ready to tear apart the engine just yet....but that Raylar performance package looks fuggin sweet! I noticed the whipple really starts heating up when you start spinning it past its efficiency range. What kind of IATs are you seeing spinning that high? You have the whipple A2W intercooler on it? After installing the fluidyne heatxchanger on my kit the IATs went down considerably. Sitting parked for 10 minutes in 95* weather last summer and the IATs never went above 130* and cruising temps barely hit 100*.
Last edited by Whippled 496; 01-26-2008 at 12:23 PM.
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I was thinking about you while I was doing 125Mph today...you were on my mind.
I am copying and pasting here...I don't actually know the sizes myself, but it's well worth mentioning in your setup.
496 = 4.250" x 4.37" (2001 Vortec 8100, 8.1 liter)
454 = 4.250" x 4.00"
427 = 4.125" x 4.00" (2006 Gen.IV, LS7 SBC, titanium rods)
376 = 4.065" x 3.622" (2007-later, Gen. IV, "L92", Cadillac Escalade, GMC Yukon)
364 = 4.000" x 3.622" ('99-later, Gen.III, "LS2", "LQ4" 6.0 Liter Vortec, 6.098" rod)
325 = 3.779" x 3.622" ('99-later, Gen.III, "LM7", "LS4 front wheel drive V-8" 5.3 Liter Vortec, 6.098" rod)
293 = 3.779" x 3.27" ('99-later, Gen.III, "LR4" 4.8 Liter Vortec, 6.278" rod)
(info gathered HERE)
LMAO no wonder you are always wanting more boost...fuggin cylinder is a 1/4" bigger in diameter and almost 3/4" longer stroke....X 8 WOW
I am copying and pasting here...I don't actually know the sizes myself, but it's well worth mentioning in your setup.
496 = 4.250" x 4.37" (2001 Vortec 8100, 8.1 liter)
454 = 4.250" x 4.00"
427 = 4.125" x 4.00" (2006 Gen.IV, LS7 SBC, titanium rods)
376 = 4.065" x 3.622" (2007-later, Gen. IV, "L92", Cadillac Escalade, GMC Yukon)
364 = 4.000" x 3.622" ('99-later, Gen.III, "LS2", "LQ4" 6.0 Liter Vortec, 6.098" rod)
325 = 3.779" x 3.622" ('99-later, Gen.III, "LM7", "LS4 front wheel drive V-8" 5.3 Liter Vortec, 6.098" rod)
293 = 3.779" x 3.27" ('99-later, Gen.III, "LR4" 4.8 Liter Vortec, 6.278" rod)
(info gathered HERE)
LMAO no wonder you are always wanting more boost...fuggin cylinder is a 1/4" bigger in diameter and almost 3/4" longer stroke....X 8 WOW
Last edited by dewmanshu; 01-26-2008 at 03:51 PM.
#28
I was thinking about you while I was doing 125Mph today...you were on my mind.
I am copying and pasting here...I don't actually know the sizes myself, but it's well worth mentioning in your setup.
496 = 4.250" x 4.37" (2001 Vortec 8100, 8.1 liter)
454 = 4.250" x 4.00"
427 = 4.125" x 4.00" (2006 Gen.IV, LS7 SBC, titanium rods)
376 = 4.065" x 3.622" (2007-later, Gen. IV, "L92", Cadillac Escalade, GMC Yukon)
364 = 4.000" x 3.622" ('99-later, Gen.III, "LS2", "LQ4" 6.0 Liter Vortec, 6.098" rod)
325 = 3.779" x 3.622" ('99-later, Gen.III, "LM7", "LS4 front wheel drive V-8" 5.3 Liter Vortec, 6.098" rod)
293 = 3.779" x 3.27" ('99-later, Gen.III, "LR4" 4.8 Liter Vortec, 6.278" rod)
(info gathered HERE)
LMAO no wonder you are always wanting more boost...fuggin cylinder is a 1/4" bigger in diameter and almost 3/4" longer stroke....X 8 WOW
I am copying and pasting here...I don't actually know the sizes myself, but it's well worth mentioning in your setup.
496 = 4.250" x 4.37" (2001 Vortec 8100, 8.1 liter)
454 = 4.250" x 4.00"
427 = 4.125" x 4.00" (2006 Gen.IV, LS7 SBC, titanium rods)
376 = 4.065" x 3.622" (2007-later, Gen. IV, "L92", Cadillac Escalade, GMC Yukon)
364 = 4.000" x 3.622" ('99-later, Gen.III, "LS2", "LQ4" 6.0 Liter Vortec, 6.098" rod)
325 = 3.779" x 3.622" ('99-later, Gen.III, "LM7", "LS4 front wheel drive V-8" 5.3 Liter Vortec, 6.098" rod)
293 = 3.779" x 3.27" ('99-later, Gen.III, "LR4" 4.8 Liter Vortec, 6.278" rod)
(info gathered HERE)
LMAO no wonder you are always wanting more boost...fuggin cylinder is a 1/4" bigger in diameter and almost 3/4" longer stroke....X 8 WOW
I know right, it just seems like this thing is always hungry for more. More gas, more hills, more straight aways, more boost, etc. Any good suggestions on a good exhaust kit? I dont want anything loud, just something to let it breathe a little better.
#29
I wish I had an opinion, but I haven't heard many and mine is loud. A 3" from the Y all the way out would be great IMO (it's what I have lol) but I am sure it will produce some sound on yours. Stainless and a good resonating setup should make you pretty happy.