Power Nation - Truck Tech Project White Lightning
01-31-2016, 06:14 PM
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01-31-2016, 06:46 PM
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Sucks Ryan is gone and congrats on being part of show...I at times thought of applying
02-07-2016, 09:34 AM
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Hi, LT here. Glad you liked today's episode.
You can pull the LS dampeners with a conventional 3 jaw puller around the inside of the hub, it's just much easier with one made for a LS. There are three small tabs around the inside of the crank hub. Btw.. It's actually called project white noize.
Watch next week to see the suspension get lowered. The truck will be getting a turbo later on in the season, after we upgrade many other parts of the truck.
You can pull the LS dampeners with a conventional 3 jaw puller around the inside of the hub, it's just much easier with one made for a LS. There are three small tabs around the inside of the crank hub. Btw.. It's actually called project white noize.
Watch next week to see the suspension get lowered. The truck will be getting a turbo later on in the season, after we upgrade many other parts of the truck.
05-15-2016, 03:36 PM
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I know Trick Turbo started a thread giving us the insight scoop on being the manufacturer for LTs white noise trucks turbo kit, but I figured I'd give an update on it.
Well after 3 months they finally got to the drivetrain, but still no boost yet. Pretty disappointed in what they showed. Truck got a built 80E from Monster, I hope he has good luck because they sure don't get any good feedback from anyone on here. Didn't go over anything about the trans swap from 6L80E to a 4L80E except the PCM of NC harness, two piece (aluminum and steel), 1350 yoke, forgot what stall TC. They used some sort of spacer for the flexplate and TC, I missed the explanation and name of the part. I don't know if the two diff trannys are a direct swap for crossmember but they didn't talk about that or DS length.
They removed the G80 and and 3.42 out and out in a different locker and 3.73s with girdle.
I figured we see not in the tranny swap and less on the locker swap. Maybe LT will chime in. Still looking pretty good with the replica Silverado SS in there now with it being lowered.
Well after 3 months they finally got to the drivetrain, but still no boost yet. Pretty disappointed in what they showed. Truck got a built 80E from Monster, I hope he has good luck because they sure don't get any good feedback from anyone on here. Didn't go over anything about the trans swap from 6L80E to a 4L80E except the PCM of NC harness, two piece (aluminum and steel), 1350 yoke, forgot what stall TC. They used some sort of spacer for the flexplate and TC, I missed the explanation and name of the part. I don't know if the two diff trannys are a direct swap for crossmember but they didn't talk about that or DS length.
They removed the G80 and and 3.42 out and out in a different locker and 3.73s with girdle.
I figured we see not in the tranny swap and less on the locker swap. Maybe LT will chime in. Still looking pretty good with the replica Silverado SS in there now with it being lowered.
05-15-2016, 08:11 PM
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sorry to disappoint, I was disappointed how this one aired myself. Unfortunately, when our shows air on Spike! they have about 3 mins less run-time than on the other networks, so a lot gets trimmed, and I didnt see the changes they made until this morning. They cut out the old trans removal,and the trans cross member modification bit. I'm gonna see if they can change that for the next airing.
In the meantime, here are some details.
The trans is a Monster Extreme Super Duty 4l80e, rated at 1,100hp. The truck dyno'd at only 500whp at the moment. Its been together for about 2,000 miles of daily driving so far, and its working great. I also ordered the multi disc 2,500rpm stall converter, but I wish I had selected a higher RPM stall. My bad, but the trans works perfect.
My only regret is the gear ratio I picked. First gear off the line is was sluggish compared to the 6l80e. 4.11's would have been a better choice, but its my daily driver. at 85mph highway speed, its spinning 2,500rpm with the 3.73's, so I am also glad I did not go with 4.11 or higher. Its a love hate thing.
I did have to modify the crossmember to fit the 4l80e. The mount pad is about 4 inches farther back on the 4l80, so I cut and extended the crossmember. This is what is looks like mocked up in the truck prior to finish welding
On the new torque converter, it came with a longer pilot. If you swap a 4l80e behind a LS engine with a stock converter, the pilot is 0.400" (i believe) shorter, so there is nothing to center the torque converter into the crank. Usually, people either use a crankshaft spacer from HD trucks, or companies like TCI offer the swap flexplates with the extender. Because of the longer pilot on the Monster converter, we did not have to run the spacer. I also know most companies like Circle D and Yank offer the same thing. There are a lot of detailed 4l80e swaps on PT that go over this.
You can see on the bottom of the pic, the spacer would stick out way too far, and not allow the converter to bolt up properly to the flex plate.
The 2wd 4l80e is a few inches shorter than the 6l80e if memory serves me correctly. (its been a few projects between then and now...) I have seen a 6l80e to 4l80e 4wd swap on PT.net, and I think on the 4wd version, the cross member is much closer.
Some of the stuff that didnt make the show...
The 4l80e is shifted by the stock 6l80e cable, attached to factory 4l80e brackets. All I had to do on the shift select arm, was spin it 180*, and everything lined up perfectly.
the new TCM already had a bracket behind the ECM, and the PCM of NC harness worked perfectly.
Tune in may 25th for the turbo install and dyno!
In the meantime, here are some details.
The trans is a Monster Extreme Super Duty 4l80e, rated at 1,100hp. The truck dyno'd at only 500whp at the moment. Its been together for about 2,000 miles of daily driving so far, and its working great. I also ordered the multi disc 2,500rpm stall converter, but I wish I had selected a higher RPM stall. My bad, but the trans works perfect.
My only regret is the gear ratio I picked. First gear off the line is was sluggish compared to the 6l80e. 4.11's would have been a better choice, but its my daily driver. at 85mph highway speed, its spinning 2,500rpm with the 3.73's, so I am also glad I did not go with 4.11 or higher. Its a love hate thing.
I did have to modify the crossmember to fit the 4l80e. The mount pad is about 4 inches farther back on the 4l80, so I cut and extended the crossmember. This is what is looks like mocked up in the truck prior to finish welding
On the new torque converter, it came with a longer pilot. If you swap a 4l80e behind a LS engine with a stock converter, the pilot is 0.400" (i believe) shorter, so there is nothing to center the torque converter into the crank. Usually, people either use a crankshaft spacer from HD trucks, or companies like TCI offer the swap flexplates with the extender. Because of the longer pilot on the Monster converter, we did not have to run the spacer. I also know most companies like Circle D and Yank offer the same thing. There are a lot of detailed 4l80e swaps on PT that go over this.
You can see on the bottom of the pic, the spacer would stick out way too far, and not allow the converter to bolt up properly to the flex plate.
The 2wd 4l80e is a few inches shorter than the 6l80e if memory serves me correctly. (its been a few projects between then and now...) I have seen a 6l80e to 4l80e 4wd swap on PT.net, and I think on the 4wd version, the cross member is much closer.
Some of the stuff that didnt make the show...
The 4l80e is shifted by the stock 6l80e cable, attached to factory 4l80e brackets. All I had to do on the shift select arm, was spin it 180*, and everything lined up perfectly.
the new TCM already had a bracket behind the ECM, and the PCM of NC harness worked perfectly.
Tune in may 25th for the turbo install and dyno!
05-15-2016, 08:53 PM
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Honestly, I was back and forth between keeping the 6L. I do know many folks use the 6L80 on boosted setups, and they hold up great. But on my truck, the trans took a dump after 150k miles of BONE STOCK driving, like stock intake and exhaust bone stock. The planetary gears were completely stripped, debris went through the pump, and wiped everything out. The trans was treated to a stock rebuild before the truck ever made it to the show, but it left an uneasy feeling in my gut. It was sort of a once bitten, twice shy scenario. Also, when the project started, the final plans were going to include a built bottom end stroker with an even larger turbo, with HP goals much higher than where we ended up, but those plans never materialized.
PATC has a neat setup where they swap out to clutch drums that use powerglide clutches I thought about trying out. But yeah, in all honesty, the 6l80e would have probably worked for me. But I didn't want to take that chance.
PATC has a neat setup where they swap out to clutch drums that use powerglide clutches I thought about trying out. But yeah, in all honesty, the 6l80e would have probably worked for me. But I didn't want to take that chance.