PT88 vs. TC78
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i agree. you really need to look at the compressor map of the turbo. bigger isnt always better. the pt88 is laggy, i had one. imo a gts76mm would be the biggest id put on a truck. it will spool much faster and support 750rwhp.
if your going over 750rwhp.... get a pt88, if not then dont get it but a 750 REAR wheel hp truck is a serious setup.
additionally,, once you start getting up that high in hp the T4 flange becomes an issue. A front mount 400cu motor with a pt88 is a horrible combination.
if your going over 750rwhp.... get a pt88, if not then dont get it but a 750 REAR wheel hp truck is a serious setup.
additionally,, once you start getting up that high in hp the T4 flange becomes an issue. A front mount 400cu motor with a pt88 is a horrible combination.
Also, I know that the T4 flange will be hurting performance on larger cubed motors but I'm most likely going to stay with a 370 ci. But doesn't flaco have a PT88-47 on a 427 cubed motor?? Or is he running the T6 version?? I saw him run a 9.1x @ 15x before.
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Alright thanks.. I'll be waiting for results
I understand why yall are saying get a smaller turbo since this is a DD truck(for now). I checked out the compressor map of a PT88 and compared to a 364 ci motor it looks to be a good match staying in the 85% efficiency range while not having any turbo surge. Then to double check that, I called Precision Turbos and told them what my goals were to see which turbo they would recommend. Of course if was the brand new $3390 ball bearing unit out.. but it was an 89mm exh/88mm comp. However, they did say a PT88-47 would be sufficient for my future goals(single digits).
Also, I know that the T4 flange will be hurting performance on larger cubed motors but I'm most likely going to stay with a 370 ci. But doesn't flaco have a PT88-47 on a 427 cubed motor?? Or is he running the T6 version?? I saw him run a 9.1x @ 15x before.
I understand why yall are saying get a smaller turbo since this is a DD truck(for now). I checked out the compressor map of a PT88 and compared to a 364 ci motor it looks to be a good match staying in the 85% efficiency range while not having any turbo surge. Then to double check that, I called Precision Turbos and told them what my goals were to see which turbo they would recommend. Of course if was the brand new $3390 ball bearing unit out.. but it was an 89mm exh/88mm comp. However, they did say a PT88-47 would be sufficient for my future goals(single digits).
Also, I know that the T4 flange will be hurting performance on larger cubed motors but I'm most likely going to stay with a 370 ci. But doesn't flaco have a PT88-47 on a 427 cubed motor?? Or is he running the T6 version?? I saw him run a 9.1x @ 15x before.
precision said the pt88 was built for the grand national guys for a particular class. it likes less cubes and the hot side a/r is limited to .96 i believe.
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In your first post you're saying that the PT88 will be too big and have too much lag for a Lq4.
In your second post you're saying the PT88 likes less cubes than 36x ci.
If the Pt88 in fact likes less cubes would it spool fine on a Lq4?? If it makes a difference I'm looking into the PT8847H which has a GT4788 CHRA bearing and is rated to 1400HP. It's supposed to spool faster than the standard PT88.
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My old set up was a TC-78 .96 a/r .. Built 6.0 9.5 comp and WCCH heads...
It spooled to quick and choked up top... Boost was instant , but to violent in my opinion.
I now run a GT91 T-6 set up on the same engine, alot more control and pulls like no other!
Night and day difference.
I would say the PT-88 over the TC-78, but would go T-6 if possible... I wish I would of done that from the start..
It spooled to quick and choked up top... Boost was instant , but to violent in my opinion.
I now run a GT91 T-6 set up on the same engine, alot more control and pulls like no other!
Night and day difference.
I would say the PT-88 over the TC-78, but would go T-6 if possible... I wish I would of done that from the start..
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Precision also said that one day if the T4 was holding me back I could upgrade the exhaust housing to a T6 style flange but they wouldn't recomment anything bigger than a 370 cu in.
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when you see a dyno pull with the torque higher than the horsepower...you know the turbo was choking. an example was with my pt88, i make 800rwhp and 820rwtq. thats a T4 flange on 22psi. on a t6 S91, 988rwhp, 850rwtq on 17psi.
if turbos have low backpressure they will really start to shine uptop. a choked turbo will go flat. my setup went flat and the new setup pulls an extra 200hp. thats a lot more power for only 3mm more tubine and less boost.
additionaly, the physical size of the pt88 is little compared to a t6 S series turbo. personally i went through 3 pt88s and wouldnt put another on my lawnmower. there are much better turbos to chose from, a T6 S76 will blow a t4 pt88 out of the water, but some people just want to say "its an 88mm"
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yea the pt88 would be laggy. here is why, its going on a truck. the turbo was intended for grandnation v6s(according to precision), leaving on a transbreak and 2 step. much different than a street truck.
when you see a dyno pull with the torque higher than the horsepower...you know the turbo was choking. an example was with my pt88, i make 800rwhp and 820rwtq. thats a T4 flange on 22psi. on a t6 S91, 988rwhp, 850rwtq on 17psi.
if turbos have low backpressure they will really start to shine uptop. a choked turbo will go flat. my setup went flat and the new setup pulls an extra 200hp. thats a lot more power for only 3mm more tubine and less boost.
additionaly, the physical size of the pt88 is little compared to a t6 S series turbo. personally i went through 3 pt88s and wouldnt put another on my lawnmower. there are much better turbos to chose from, a T6 S76 will blow a t4 pt88 out of the water, but some people just want to say "its an 88mm"
when you see a dyno pull with the torque higher than the horsepower...you know the turbo was choking. an example was with my pt88, i make 800rwhp and 820rwtq. thats a T4 flange on 22psi. on a t6 S91, 988rwhp, 850rwtq on 17psi.
if turbos have low backpressure they will really start to shine uptop. a choked turbo will go flat. my setup went flat and the new setup pulls an extra 200hp. thats a lot more power for only 3mm more tubine and less boost.
additionaly, the physical size of the pt88 is little compared to a t6 S series turbo. personally i went through 3 pt88s and wouldnt put another on my lawnmower. there are much better turbos to chose from, a T6 S76 will blow a t4 pt88 out of the water, but some people just want to say "its an 88mm"