Radix or Whipple?
11-19-2009 | 04:39 PM
#31
Oh ya, I forgot, OP go w/. a Maggie. They're more of a bolton & go, not changin everything to make it reach your goals.
If by Radix, u mean any Maggie, let's break it down. The Radix 112 is a nice unit that may on here have been happy w/.
It suffers from higher IATs than the newer TVS series. The TVS is flat out more efficient.
IIRC, here's the order.
Radix = 112ci.
122 = 122
And the TVS1900 is 119, while the TVS2300 is 127. Did I get that right, Brian?
Customer service will be better than Whipple too, IMO.
How much is a Whiple BTW? I never looked cause I had no use for them. DO they answer the phones now?!?
If by Radix, u mean any Maggie, let's break it down. The Radix 112 is a nice unit that may on here have been happy w/.
It suffers from higher IATs than the newer TVS series. The TVS is flat out more efficient.
IIRC, here's the order.
Radix = 112ci.
122 = 122
And the TVS1900 is 119, while the TVS2300 is 127. Did I get that right, Brian?
Customer service will be better than Whipple too, IMO.
How much is a Whiple BTW? I never looked cause I had no use for them. DO they answer the phones now?!?
11-19-2009 | 04:40 PM
#32
I did like you said and didn't find one complaint...what am i doing wrong?
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11-19-2009 | 04:40 PM
#33
Hit the search button and type in magnacharger problems and you will find what you need sweetie. You never answered my other questions though. You have only had 25 complaints out of the 30k you've sold? Why are the lysolm/ whipple blower units used more than yours?
I said Former on this forum! Which it would appear you are, I don't the "supporting vendor" above you name anymore. Are you currently a vendor right now? Your pretty funny too with your emo I done with this forum threads, but here you are.
I said Former on this forum! Which it would appear you are, I don't the "supporting vendor" above you name anymore. Are you currently a vendor right now? Your pretty funny too with your emo I done with this forum threads, but here you are.
EMO wtf? I simply asked you to put your money where your big mouth is. FYI search whipple problems, procharger problems, turbo problems, NOS problems, its all the same.............
Glad you are done, I did nothing other than tell you to put up or SHUT UP....you shutting up proves that you cannot put up.
11-19-2009 | 04:44 PM
#35
Launching!
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For the record maggie sells an Eaton Based Blower, They are An OE Manufactured supplier, And are used in several different apps, Such As Ford, Jag's,and several dif gm equipped vehicles. Just to name a few. There are several dif blowers and several dif uses of them. As for the OP intended use a maggie can fit the requirements asked.
This quote wasn't doctored. Those are his sentiments on both systems, so it sounds as if he's had both.
IMO, a Maggie would match, if not best those numbers.
The TVS is more efficent than a Radix. Go find a map of both Whipple & a TVS, that could be some insight, good or bad.
Bill begs to differ on the effficiency of the Whipple being better than the TVS.
OP wants 550-600RWHP, Bill's @ 575. Furthermore, that's w/. a 1900. How big is a Whipple? I'm guessin 2.2L. OK, so how bout a TVS2300 go toe-toe w/. a Whipple 2.2 on a 6L.
Claim? Why are u bashin Bill now? He's givin u some insight to his combo, & you're brow-beating him.
IMO, a Maggie would match, if not best those numbers.
The TVS is more efficent than a Radix. Go find a map of both Whipple & a TVS, that could be some insight, good or bad.
Bill begs to differ on the effficiency of the Whipple being better than the TVS.
OP wants 550-600RWHP, Bill's @ 575. Furthermore, that's w/. a 1900. How big is a Whipple? I'm guessin 2.2L. OK, so how bout a TVS2300 go toe-toe w/. a Whipple 2.2 on a 6L.
Claim? Why are u bashin Bill now? He's givin u some insight to his combo, & you're brow-beating him.
I never compared the whipple against anything to do with the tvs blower. All my comments were towards the 112 blower.
I didn't see anywhere till your post that he was running a tvs blower not a 112. If thats the case then maybe his results are possible.
I wasn't trying to give bill a hard time it was a misunderstanding if he's running the tvs1900, thats what was throwing me off.
11-19-2009 | 04:51 PM
#37
Problem is most the net says twin screw hands down.Not when you restrict the in take to less than half the size it should be.I can tell you when the inlet is restricted on any blower they heat up the air faster than the iat sensor can responed plus not making the boost desired.
11-19-2009 | 04:52 PM
#38
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EMO wtf? I simply asked you to put your money where your big mouth is. FYI search whipple problems, procharger problems, turbo problems, NOS problems, its all the same.............
Glad you are done, I did nothing other than tell you to put up or SHUT UP....you shutting up proves that you cannot put up.
Glad you are done, I did nothing other than tell you to put up or SHUT UP....you shutting up proves that you cannot put up.
LOL when I made that page when the engine was stock other than headers and exhaust a few years ago. I put that 575hp number as a joke, I have never even thought about updating it till now.
11-19-2009 | 04:52 PM
#39
So magnacharger and eaton are the same company? If so I was unaware they were both the same companies.
Well apparently maggies make 575whp at 12psi. If thats the case my whipple has no chance if I'm already at 10psi and making 395whp on a mustang.
I never compared the whipple against anything to do with the tvs blower. All my comments were towards the 112 blower.
I didn't see anywhere till your post that he was running a tvs blower not a 112. If thats the case then maybe his results are possible.
Well apparently maggies make 575whp at 12psi. If thats the case my whipple has no chance if I'm already at 10psi and making 395whp on a mustang.
I never compared the whipple against anything to do with the tvs blower. All my comments were towards the 112 blower.
I didn't see anywhere till your post that he was running a tvs blower not a 112. If thats the case then maybe his results are possible.
Magnacharger = aftermkt arm, gets cases from Eaton, I know I'm pretty close on the cases part, but they may get more than that.
Individual results may vary, but that's Bill's.
He used to have a 112.
Ya, I wanted to put the sizes out there to compare apple - apples.
Don't worry if u give Bill a hard time. I do it all the time.
But your defensive stance had me backin Bill. Otherwise, I tell Bill. --> 
EDIT: I see Ray beat me to it on Eaton / Maggie relationship.
Last edited by fastnblu; 11-19-2009 at 04:57 PM.
11-19-2009 | 05:08 PM
#40
I made over 500 with the 112. The 112 is a hell of a setup for the price.
Honestly this has been beat to death 1000 times. All forms of FI are good and what is "better" for one user might be different for another.
Still, if you are going to claim that one product has problems you better put up the proof or STFU. People depend on word of mouth to sell products and make a living. 1 bad word, truth or NOT, can kill business. If you are going to make claims you better show supporting evidence. I did the search as you requested and didn't find ONE SIONGLE COMPLAINT.
Honestly this has been beat to death 1000 times. All forms of FI are good and what is "better" for one user might be different for another.
Still, if you are going to claim that one product has problems you better put up the proof or STFU. People depend on word of mouth to sell products and make a living. 1 bad word, truth or NOT, can kill business. If you are going to make claims you better show supporting evidence. I did the search as you requested and didn't find ONE SIONGLE COMPLAINT.