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Old 10-14-2007, 09:30 AM
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Also anytime you are in boost(turbo or SC) it requires a richer fuel mixture say 11-12:1 AFR rather than 14.7:1 when not in boost. So it is more than just increasing the fuel flow to match the airflow. That richer mixture is what makes the 2 MPG difference under cruising conditions in my case, even though I am revving a lot higher in 3rd gear. So the real loss from the richer mixture is actually greater than 2 MPG.

The SC does making passing and getting rolling a breeze when towing though.
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I agree that keeping out of power enrichment is going to be better. You're much better with an N/A engine that downshifts when it needs to than going into boost to make the power you need. Only diesels get better milage when towing with a turbo, not gas engines.
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Originally Posted by zippy
I agree that keeping out of power enrichment is going to be better. You're much better with an N/A engine that downshifts when it needs to than going into boost to make the power you need. Only diesels get better milage when towing with a turbo, not gas engines.
I live in California and there is only a halve dozen BIG mountains to climb in this state and I came from Illinois were mountains are not a big thing but most mountains take less then 3 minutes to climb and being in PE for 3 minutes strait is not all that much to worry about. I just towed a crew cab HD 2500 on a tandem trailer behind a 2007 crew cab 5.3 1500 up some big mountains with no problem. Keeping in in third gear and keeping the rpm range in the 2300-2800 range helps keep it out of PE 80% of the time like someone earlier said gear reduction works wonders. I do feel if you are towing over 10000 lbs often get a diesel!. Also 12.5 AFR PE compared to 10.1 COT that the factory has you at is no big savings.
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Originally Posted by Crash Dummy
I live in California and there is only a halve dozen BIG mountains to climb in this state and I came from Illinois were mountains are not a big thing but most mountains take less then 3 minutes to climb and being in PE for 3 minutes strait is not all that much to worry about. I just towed a crew cab HD 2500 on a tandem trailer behind a 2007 crew cab 5.3 1500 up some big mountains with no problem. Keeping in in third gear and keeping the rpm range in the 2300-2800 range helps keep it out of PE 80% of the time like someone earlier said gear reduction works wonders. I do feel if you are towing over 10000 lbs often get a diesel!
ehhhhh what do you know
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Originally Posted by Crash Dummy
I live in California and there is only a halve dozen BIG mountains to climb in this state and I came from Illinois were mountains are not a big thing but most mountains take less then 3 minutes to climb and being in PE for 3 minutes strait is not all that much to worry about. I just towed a crew cab HD 2500 on a tandem trailer behind a 2007 crew cab 5.3 1500 up some big mountains with no problem. Keeping in in third gear and keeping the rpm range in the 2300-2800 range helps keep it out of PE 80% of the time like someone earlier said gear reduction works wonders. I do feel if you are towing over 10000 lbs often get a diesel!. Also 12.5 AFR PE compared to 10.1 COT that the factory has you at is no big savings.
what is COT?
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Originally Posted by Crash Dummy
I live in California and there is only a halve dozen BIG mountains to climb in this state and I came from Illinois were mountains are not a big thing but most mountains take less then 3 minutes to climb and being in PE for 3 minutes strait is not all that much to worry about. I just towed a crew cab HD 2500 on a tandem trailer behind a 2007 crew cab 5.3 1500 up some big mountains with no problem. Keeping in in third gear and keeping the rpm range in the 2300-2800 range helps keep it out of PE 80% of the time like someone earlier said gear reduction works wonders. I do feel if you are towing over 10000 lbs often get a diesel!. Also 12.5 AFR PE compared to 10.1 COT that the factory has you at is no big savings.
I certainly agree with you. If you were towing with a truck and had a 2 bar system you could even get away with considerably better milage under boost and make more use of part throttle boost. I also agree with keeping the rpm up to try to keep it out of boost. Having the extra power from boost for that extra quick grunt blast is very nice.

When you were in p.e. for 3 minutes straight I'm guessing this is something you worked the a/f ratio on? I would be concerned about cooking the cats.


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