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Old 05-07-2013, 10:21 PM
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Default 07 NNBS Pinion Angle Issues After Drop

Here's my situation, I have a 2007 Sierra NNBS 4x4 Z71, I lowered it using Belltech kit#647SP using the directions I set it to 3" front and 5" rear, came out to more like 2/4 not sure if it's because mine is a Z71?

Anyways, I was getting the 60-70mph "shudder" on the HWY, read a bunch of threads on drive shaft and pinion angles and decided to check things out tonight. I put the font on jack stands, put jack stands under the rear leafs and tried to get the truck to sit as level as possible.

Below you will see where I started off, basically the rear diff was +10Deg and drive shaft was 0Deg. I tried to install the transfer case spacers as per the kit but it actually didn't make a difference at all, so I removed them.

What I did after was use some pieces of metal to "wedge" the drive shaft to a more downward angle, you will see this in the pics below as well. When I life the rear part of the axle saddle 3/4in (which seems like a lot) I then get a diff angle of -3Deg and drive shaft angle of +2Deg.

One thing to note was that the axle yoke that goes inside the transfer case did not change length at all during any of these modifications, kinda odd.

Pics: (This is what a 2007 looks like when you live in Toronto, nice and rusty :S )

Before and after I did in MS Paint, I suck at that program as you can see.
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Here you can see what I used to wedge, of course I am not driving the truck like this, it was just for measurement purposes.
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This is what the Rear Diff and Transfer Case look like, kinda of hard to get pics straight on.
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Questions I have are:
-Does this look right to you?
-Is needing a 3/4 inch spacer too much? I'm not sure how thick the 6deg spacers are

One thing I thought of doing was just modding the axle saddle, if I were to cut some off the front I could rotate the shaft forward, only thing then is the rear wouldn't sit up against the axle pad anymore, not sure if this would cause problems? I would tighten the front first so the axle pad sits on the axle saddle then tighten the rear.

I know I couldn't just remove 3/4" off the front as the axle would be rotating in the saddle rather than what I did here which is lift the rear but if I took a bit off at a time it might work, thoughts?

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Appreciate any suggestion, I called a bunch of local mechanics, axle shops, spring shops and no one does this kind of thing.

Jay
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I did more reading and some articles suggest I should get the transfer case angle and rear diff angle to be opposites and cancel each other out, so my transfer case Is -7 deg the rear end should be +7 deg so if that were the case I would just need a 3deg wedge to get it to +7. what do you guys think about that?

I don't want to do too much since I'm going to put the 4L80E in which will move the tcase rear ward and i can really set the angles right when i get a new drive shaft however we will be putting the turbo on with the stock 4L60E first to see what the numbers are so I would like for it to run as good and safe as possible.
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If you have a one piece shaft you want the angles to cancel each other. If your above illustrations is a correct "before" representation, you have the t case 7* down. Consider that a fixed point/measurement. Your diff is 10* up, so you need to bring the pinion down 3*. However, under power the pinion will want to climb, so I usually set them down 1-2*. A 4* shim, installed so it pitches the pinion down will set you up correctly. You are gonna want a steel shim, not an aluminum or cast shim. Much stronger and safer. And new center pins.

Something like this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004JARX70
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Correct, on a single driveshaft you need the opposite numbers on each end.
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Perfect, ordered 4deg shims, we'll see how that goes.
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