4l60e build, need some help
#1
4l60e build, need some help
so I know there are a lot of threads out there on how to build a nice 4l60e. But I couldn't find one with a set parts list to make a tough 4l60e. If anyone knows of one please post the link. Otherwise I am hoping someone on here can give me a full parts list I would need to build the 4l60e in my 05 1500 z71 to handle lets say up to 500hp. The truck is my daily driver so I probably will pick up a used trans to build up then swap in when done. The truck as I stated is my daily driver, ocasionaly some light towing, some off roading (truck has 2.5'' lift and 33 inch tires), and I like to take it down the 1/4 mile at a local drag strip. So it has to be able to hold up to some abuse. The 5.3 l33 engine will soon b cammed and a high stall converter (nothing a mild built 4l60e shouldn't be able to handle). And no, I am not looking to do a 4l80e swap... atleast for now, maybe down the road if I do forced induction. thanks guys!!!
#2
Every builder has a different recipe for what they feel works.
I am not a Professional builder nor have I built alot of these to handle a ton of power.
These are things I will be using in my own transmission.
Sonnax Smart Shell 77749-02K
Sonnax Input Drum Reinforcement Kit 77733-51K
Sonnax Billet Servo 2nd Gear Super Hold Servo 77911-03K
Sonnax Billet 4th Gear Servo 77767K
Sonnax Heavy Duty 2-3 Shift Valve 77754-41
Sonnax Power Pack HP-4L60E-01
Trans go Separator plate 46-PLT-96
Borg Warner 29 Element Forward Sprag 29236AM
Borg Warner Low-Reverse Sprag Element 28571AM
5 Pinion Planetary set front and rear
New Reverse drum 24245624
New bushings
New Bearings
Overhaul kit with Gasket's, Seal's, OE style filter.
Re manufactured Pump.
Billet Pump rotor
Billet Output shaft
New Borg Warner Clutches and Wide band.
Some things different builders substitute
Beast Sun Shell Vs. the Sonnax Smart Shell
HD2 kit with OE aluminum accumulator pistons Vs. the Sonnax Power Pack
OEM Separator plate with Torlean check ***** Vs. the Trans go plate.
Corvette Servo Vs. The Sonnax Billet 2nd gear servo
Superior Super Servo 4th gear Vs. Sonnax 4th gear billet servo
I am not a Professional builder nor have I built alot of these to handle a ton of power.
These are things I will be using in my own transmission.
Sonnax Smart Shell 77749-02K
Sonnax Input Drum Reinforcement Kit 77733-51K
Sonnax Billet Servo 2nd Gear Super Hold Servo 77911-03K
Sonnax Billet 4th Gear Servo 77767K
Sonnax Heavy Duty 2-3 Shift Valve 77754-41
Sonnax Power Pack HP-4L60E-01
Trans go Separator plate 46-PLT-96
Borg Warner 29 Element Forward Sprag 29236AM
Borg Warner Low-Reverse Sprag Element 28571AM
5 Pinion Planetary set front and rear
New Reverse drum 24245624
New bushings
New Bearings
Overhaul kit with Gasket's, Seal's, OE style filter.
Re manufactured Pump.
Billet Pump rotor
Billet Output shaft
New Borg Warner Clutches and Wide band.
Some things different builders substitute
Beast Sun Shell Vs. the Sonnax Smart Shell
HD2 kit with OE aluminum accumulator pistons Vs. the Sonnax Power Pack
OEM Separator plate with Torlean check ***** Vs. the Trans go plate.
Corvette Servo Vs. The Sonnax Billet 2nd gear servo
Superior Super Servo 4th gear Vs. Sonnax 4th gear billet servo
#3
im going through the same thing now, I found this thread:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic...-opinions.html
and also am looking at different tranny builder's setups as far as what they use.
The list posted above is spot on the money!
https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic...-opinions.html
and also am looking at different tranny builder's setups as far as what they use.
The list posted above is spot on the money!
#4
#5
The Sonnax Power pack kit comes with alot of good parts. Its similar to an HD2 kit with out drill bits and hardened pump rings. It also does not come with the heavy release springs in the transgo 7CS kit.
So far with the exception of the hardened pump rings and the release springs in the 7CS kit, I have not used anything else from the HD2 kit. I also have not gotten to the valve body side of things either.
Ever part in the Sonnax Power pack kit has the equivalent or stronger parts inside. It also comes with some other neat little goodies.
You can read up on the Sonnax parts on their web site. 4L65-E - Sonnax
So far with the exception of the hardened pump rings and the release springs in the 7CS kit, I have not used anything else from the HD2 kit. I also have not gotten to the valve body side of things either.
Ever part in the Sonnax Power pack kit has the equivalent or stronger parts inside. It also comes with some other neat little goodies.
You can read up on the Sonnax parts on their web site. 4L65-E - Sonnax
#6
1FastBrick,
I modified your parts list a bit to tailor my build, if you have a chance can you look over it for me please? my 4l60E is out of a 2000 silverado z71
Parts list:
Sonnax Smart Shell 77749-02K
Sonnax Smart Tech Input Housing Kit 77733-06K
Sonnax Input Drum Reinforcement Kit 77733-51K
Sonnax Billet Servo 2nd Gear Super Hold Servo 77911-03K
Sonnax Billet 4th Gear Servo 77767K
Sonnax Heavy Duty 2-3 Shift Valve 77754-41
Sonnax Power Pack HP-4L60E-01
Trans go Separator plate 46-PLT-96
Borg Warner 29 Element Forward Sprag 29236AM
Borg Warner Low-Reverse Sprag Element 28571AM
5 Pinion Planetary set front and rear
New Reverse drum 24245624
New bushings
New Bearings
Overhaul kit with Gasket's, Seal's, OE style filter.
Re manufactured Pump.
Billet Pump rotor
Billet Output shaft (depending on cost)
New Borg Warner Clutches and Wide band.
Smart Tech Input housing
9x Raybestos Blue .062 (.065) with 8x .078 steels = .062 (dry) ==> Perfect for 8 Blue clutches
For the 5-pinion Planetary upgrade, these parts are crucial for the upgrade (Reference post #12 in this thread: https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic...n-planets.html ):
24241248 5-pinion front planet carrier
24241255 Reaction Carrier shaft
24217328 Torrington bearing underneath the Reaction Carrier Shaft
(and on top of the sun shell).
24236092 Torrington thrust bearing underneath the planet carrier
(and on top of the Reaction Carrier)
I modified your parts list a bit to tailor my build, if you have a chance can you look over it for me please? my 4l60E is out of a 2000 silverado z71
Parts list:
Sonnax Smart Shell 77749-02K
Sonnax Smart Tech Input Housing Kit 77733-06K
Sonnax Input Drum Reinforcement Kit 77733-51K
Sonnax Billet Servo 2nd Gear Super Hold Servo 77911-03K
Sonnax Billet 4th Gear Servo 77767K
Sonnax Heavy Duty 2-3 Shift Valve 77754-41
Sonnax Power Pack HP-4L60E-01
Trans go Separator plate 46-PLT-96
Borg Warner 29 Element Forward Sprag 29236AM
Borg Warner Low-Reverse Sprag Element 28571AM
5 Pinion Planetary set front and rear
New Reverse drum 24245624
New bushings
New Bearings
Overhaul kit with Gasket's, Seal's, OE style filter.
Re manufactured Pump.
Billet Pump rotor
Billet Output shaft (depending on cost)
New Borg Warner Clutches and Wide band.
Smart Tech Input housing
9x Raybestos Blue .062 (.065) with 8x .078 steels = .062 (dry) ==> Perfect for 8 Blue clutches
For the 5-pinion Planetary upgrade, these parts are crucial for the upgrade (Reference post #12 in this thread: https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic...n-planets.html ):
24241248 5-pinion front planet carrier
24241255 Reaction Carrier shaft
24217328 Torrington bearing underneath the Reaction Carrier Shaft
(and on top of the sun shell).
24236092 Torrington thrust bearing underneath the planet carrier
(and on top of the Reaction Carrier)
#7
The 9 clutches in the 3-4 clutch pack is debatable. Some say it works while other say there to thin and don't work.
There are a few different variations of the modified 3-4 clutch pack so go with what ever you feel works best.
The smart housing is a nice piece. Personally I am tired of dumping money into the 4l60E So I had to stop some where. The billet rear shaft seems to be common on alot of builders list. I know on a 4x4 there critical to it's survival.
There are a few other neat parts out there like the New HD center support case saver from Adapt a case. A74761DAC
At some point I will probably go to a 4L80E and be done with it altogether.
There are a few different variations of the modified 3-4 clutch pack so go with what ever you feel works best.
The smart housing is a nice piece. Personally I am tired of dumping money into the 4l60E So I had to stop some where. The billet rear shaft seems to be common on alot of builders list. I know on a 4x4 there critical to it's survival.
There are a few other neat parts out there like the New HD center support case saver from Adapt a case. A74761DAC
At some point I will probably go to a 4L80E and be done with it altogether.
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#8
The 9 clutches in the 3-4 clutch pack is debatable. Some say it works while other say there to thin and don't work.
There are a few different variations of the modified 3-4 clutch pack so go with what ever you feel works best.
The smart housing is a nice piece. Personally I am tired of dumping money into the 4l60E So I had to stop some where. The billet rear shaft seems to be common on alot of builders list. I know on a 4x4 there critical to it's survival.
There are a few other neat parts out there like the New HD center support case saver from Adapt a case. A74761DAC
At some point I will probably go to a 4L80E and be done with it altogether.
There are a few different variations of the modified 3-4 clutch pack so go with what ever you feel works best.
The smart housing is a nice piece. Personally I am tired of dumping money into the 4l60E So I had to stop some where. The billet rear shaft seems to be common on alot of builders list. I know on a 4x4 there critical to it's survival.
There are a few other neat parts out there like the New HD center support case saver from Adapt a case. A74761DAC
At some point I will probably go to a 4L80E and be done with it altogether.
Updated list:
Parts list:
Sonnax Smart Shell 77749-02K
Sonnax Smart Tech Input Housing Kit 77733-06K
Sonnax Billet Servo 2nd Gear Super Hold Servo 77911-03K
Sonnax Billet 4th Gear Servo 77767K
Sonnax Heavy Duty 2-3 Shift Valve 77754-41
Sonnax Power Pack HP-4L60E-01
Trans go Separator plate 46-PLT-96
Borg Warner 29 Element Forward Sprag 29236AM
Borg Warner Low-Reverse Sprag Element 28571AM
New Reverse drum 24245624
New bushings
New Bearings
Overhaul kit with Gasket's, Seal's, OE style filter.
Re manufactured Pump.
Billet Pump rotor
Billet Output shaft (depending on cost)
New Borg Warner Clutches and Wide band.
#10
I have heard all sorts of things. 1 person says something works and its the be all end all to the issue and then some one else comes out and says that it burns up faster then a factory set.
I have a felling it all has to do with the clearances and how you modify the Hydraulics.
What ever you chose, follow the what ever recommendations are set forth by the product or what other users recommended it as an upgrade.
You can find used set's of 5 pinion planetaries through core suppliers for less money.
I have a felling it all has to do with the clearances and how you modify the Hydraulics.
What ever you chose, follow the what ever recommendations are set forth by the product or what other users recommended it as an upgrade.
You can find used set's of 5 pinion planetaries through core suppliers for less money.