4L80 is singing and slipping...
11-15-2008 | 10:05 AM
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11-15-2008 | 10:09 AM
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A couple of diagonistic questions:
-If the converter clutch came apart, would there be evidence of it in the trans pan?
-I had problems with the o-ring on the input shaft when first installing this converter. If that o-ring were torn or damaged in some way, would it cause these problems or would that just cause the converter to not lock up?
-I had an old style HD2 kit which required me to mash the plug in the seperator plate. If that plug came out, would it cause these symptoms?
-If the converter clutch came apart, would there be evidence of it in the trans pan?
-I had problems with the o-ring on the input shaft when first installing this converter. If that o-ring were torn or damaged in some way, would it cause these problems or would that just cause the converter to not lock up?
-I had an old style HD2 kit which required me to mash the plug in the seperator plate. If that plug came out, would it cause these symptoms?
If the input shaft o ring was cut the trans would work fine under all conditions EXCEPT lock up.
The plug that you put in the separator plate is part of the reverse circuit.
The hd shift kit allows oil to apply on both sides of the direct clutch (3rd, and reverse). Normally one circuit is for 3rd the other for reverse, but when you install the shift kit, both will be used to apply the clutch in 3rd, which equals more surface area, and more holding power..
How does it fill in reverse?
I think I place my bet on the forward clutch
11-15-2008 | 10:30 AM
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Just to clear that up!Chuck
11-15-2008 | 02:00 PM
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There would be but it would be hard to tell if it was clutch material from the converter or the another clutch pack.
If the input shaft o ring was cut the trans would work fine under all conditions EXCEPT lock up.
The plug that you put in the separator plate is part of the reverse circuit.
The hd shift kit allows oil to apply on both sides of the direct clutch (3rd, and reverse). Normally one circuit is for 3rd the other for reverse, but when you install the shift kit, both will be used to apply the clutch in 3rd, which equals more surface area, and more holding power..
How does it fill in reverse?
I think I place my bet on the forward clutch
If the input shaft o ring was cut the trans would work fine under all conditions EXCEPT lock up.
The plug that you put in the separator plate is part of the reverse circuit.
The hd shift kit allows oil to apply on both sides of the direct clutch (3rd, and reverse). Normally one circuit is for 3rd the other for reverse, but when you install the shift kit, both will be used to apply the clutch in 3rd, which equals more surface area, and more holding power..
How does it fill in reverse?
I think I place my bet on the forward clutch
It looks as if I need to just drop and rebuild the trans. I just wish I knew how to determine if it was a converter failure or trans failure.
11-15-2008 | 02:37 PM
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Not here at this shop that's for sure! Our customers actually get more parts than we list on our build list. I'm just not willing to give up our entire R & D program to our competitors or the do-it-yourselfers. That's part of what you pay for when you buy any FLT unit! Just to clear that up!
Chuck
Just to clear that up!Chuck
11-15-2008 | 07:08 PM
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11-15-2008 | 08:05 PM
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There would be but it would be hard to tell if it was clutch material from the converter or the another clutch pack.
If the input shaft o ring was cut the trans would work fine under all conditions EXCEPT lock up.
The plug that you put in the separator plate is part of the reverse circuit.
The hd shift kit allows oil to apply on both sides of the direct clutch (3rd, and reverse). Normally one circuit is for 3rd the other for reverse, but when you install the shift kit, both will be used to apply the clutch in 3rd, which equals more surface area, and more holding power..
How does it fill in reverse?
I think I place my bet on the forward clutch
If the input shaft o ring was cut the trans would work fine under all conditions EXCEPT lock up.
The plug that you put in the separator plate is part of the reverse circuit.
The hd shift kit allows oil to apply on both sides of the direct clutch (3rd, and reverse). Normally one circuit is for 3rd the other for reverse, but when you install the shift kit, both will be used to apply the clutch in 3rd, which equals more surface area, and more holding power..
How does it fill in reverse?
I think I place my bet on the forward clutch
My reverse sounds like trying to shift without a clutch into a gear that isn't there. And there is not park. and once the fluid warms up, theres no forward.