4l80e temperature climbing T/275deg
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This is the pin out from the factory manual for 4.8, 5.3 and 6.0
Blue Connector
Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function
1
BLK/WHT
451
Ground
2
LT GRN
1867
12 Volt Reference
3
PNK/BLK
1746
Fuel Injector 3 Control
4
LT GRN/BLK
1745
Fuel Injector 2 Control
5-10
--
--
Not Used
11
LT BLU
1876
Knock Sensor 2 Signal
12
DK BLU/
WHT
1869
CKP Sensor Signal
13
ORN/BLK
463
Requested Torque Signal
14
ORN/BLK
1061
UART Serial Data
15
DK BLU/
WHT
774
UART Serial Data
16
-
-
Not Used
17
DK BLU
1225
Transmission Fluid Pressure Switch Signal B
18
RED
1226
Transmission Fluid Pressure Switch Signal C
19
PNK
439
Ignition 1 Voltage
20
ORN
440
Battery Positive Voltage
21
YEL/BLK
1868
Low Reference
22
--
--
Not Used
23
PPL
719
Low Reference
24
--
--
Not Used
25
TAN
1671
HO2S Low Signal - Bank 2 Sensor 2 (w/Case Grounded Sensor)
25
TAN
413
HO2S Low Signal - Bank 2 Sensor 2 (w/Isolated Grounded Sensor)
26
TAN
1667
HO2S Low Signal - Bank 2 Sensor 1 (w/Case Grounded Sensor)
26
TAN
413
HO2S Low Signal - Bank 2 Sensor 2 (w/Isolated Grounded Sensor)
27
--
--
Not Used
28
TAN/WHT
1669
HO2S Low Signal - Bank 1 Sensor 2 (w/Case Grounded Sensor)
28
TAN
413
HO2S Low Signal - Bank 2 Sensor 2 (w/Isolated Grounded Sensor)
29
TAN/WHT
1653
HO2S Low Signal - Bank 1 Sensor 1 (w/Case Grounded Sensor)
29
TAN
413
HO2S Low Signal - Bank 2 Sensor 2 (w/Isolated Grounded Sensor)
30
LT GRN
1478
Coolant Level Switch Signal
31
--
--
Not Used
32
BLK/WHT
771
Transmission Range Switch Signal A
33
PPL
420
TCC Brake Switch/Cruise Control Release Switch Signal
34
WHT
776
Transmission Range Switch Signal P
35
GRY
48
CPP Switch Signal
36
BLK
1744
Fuel Injector 1 Control
37
YEL/BLK
846
Fuel Injector 6 Control
38
PNK/WHT
1101
Damping Lift/Dive Signal
39
--
--
Not Used
40
BLK/WHT
451
Ground
41
BLK
407
Low Reference
41
GRY
720
Low Reference (w/Isolated Grounded Sensor)
42
--
--
Not Used
43
RED/BLK
877
Fuel Injector 7 Control
44
LT BLU/BLK
844
Fuel Injector 4 Control
45
GRY
474
5 Volt Reference
46
GRY
416
5 Volt Reference
47
GRY
597
5 Volt Reference
48
GRY
596
5 Volt Reference
49-50
--
--
Not Used
51
DK BLU
496
Knock Sensor 1 Signal
52
--
--
Not Used
53
BLK
470
Low Reference
54
BLK
452
Low Reference
55
BRN
1456
EGR Valve Position Signal
56
WHT
1579
Fuel Temperature/Composition Signal (w/L59)
57
ORN
440
Battery Positive Voltage
58
DK GRN
1049
PCM Class 2 Serial Data
59
YEL
710
Class 2 Serial Data
60
ORN/BLK
469
Low Reference
61
PNK/BLK
632
Low Reference
62
--
--
Not Used
63
GRY
720
Low Reference (Except w/isolated grounded HO2S)
63
TAN
413
HO2S Low Signal - Bank 2 Sensor 2 (w/Isolated Grounded Sensor)
64
--
--
Not Used
65
PPL
1670
HO2S High Signal - Bank 2 Sensor 2
66
PPL
1666
HO2S High Signal - Bank 2 Sensor 1
67
--
--
Not Used
68
PPL/WHT
1668
HO2S High Signal - Bank 1 Sensor 2
69
PPL/WHT
1665
HO2S High Signal - Bank 1 Sensor 1
70
BRN
1174
Oil Level Switch Signal
71
--
--
Not Used
72
YEL
772
Transmission Range Switch Signal B
73
BRN/WHT
633
CMP Sensor Signal
74
YEL
410
ECT Sensor Signal
75
PNK
1020
Off/Run/Crank Voltage
76
BLK/WHT
845
Fuel Injector 5 Control
77
DK BLU/
WHT
878
Fuel Injector 8 Control
78
--
--
Not Used
79
WHT
687
3-2 Shift Solenoid Valve Control
80
ORN/BLK
510
Low Reference
==========================================
Red Connector
Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function
1
BLK/WHT
451
Ground
2
BRN
418
TCC PWM Solenoid Valve Control
3
TAN
1465
Fuel Pump Relay Control - Secondary
4
--
--
Not Used
5
TAN/BLK
464
Delivered Torque Signal
6
RED/BLK
1228
PC Solenoid Valve High Control
7
RED
1676
EGR Valve Supply Voltage
8
LT BLU/WHT
1229
PC Solenoid Valve Low Control
9
DK GRN/
WHT
465
Fuel Pump Relay Control - Primary
10
WHT
121
Engine Speed Signal
11
DK BLU
604
A/C High Pressure Recirculation Switch Signal
12
--
--
Not Used
13
LT BLU/BLK
396
Cruise Control Engaged Signal
14
--
--
Not Used
15
BRN
25
Charge Indicator Control
16
GRY/BLK
1694
4WD Low Signal
17
DK GRN/
WHT
2523
A/C Request Signal
18
--
--
Not Used
19
BLK/WHT
1695
Axle Switch Signal
20
LT GRN/BLK
822
VSS Low Signal
21
PPL/WHT
821
VSS High Signal
22
RED/BLK
1230
AT ISS High Signal
23
DK BLU/
WHT
1231
AT ISS Low Signal
24
DK BLU
417
TP Sensor Signal
25
TAN
472
IAT Sensor Signal
26
PPL
2121
IC 1 Control
27
RED
2127
IC 7 Control
28
LT BLU/WHT
2126
IC 6 Control
29
DK GRN/
WHT
2124
IC 4 Control
30
--
--
Not Used
31
YEL
492
MAF Sensor Signal
32
LT GRN
432
MAP Sensor Signal
33
DK GRN
1614
Recirculation Door Control
34
DK GRN/
WHT
428
EVAP Canister Purge Solenoid Control
35
--
--
Not Used
36
BRN
436
AIR Pump Relay Control
37-38
--
--
Not Used
39
RED
631
12 Volt Reference
40
BLK/WHT
451
Ground
41
WHT
257
EGR Solenoid Control
42
TAN/BLK
422
TCC Solenoid Valve Control
43
DK GRN/
WHT
459
A/C Compressor Clutch Relay Control
44
--
--
Not Used
45
WHT
1310
EVAP Canister Vent Solenoid Control
46
BRN/WHT
419
MIL Control
47
YEL/BLK
1223
2-3 Shift Solenoid Valve Control
48
LT GRN
1222
1-2 Shift Solenoid Valve Control
49
YEL/BLK
1827
Vehicle Speed Signal
50
DK GRN/
WHT
817
Vehicle Speed Signal
51
YEL/BLK
1227
TFT Sensor Signal
52
GRY
23
Generator Field Duty Cycle Signal
53
--
--
Not Used
54
PPL
1589
Fuel Level Sensor Signal - Primary
55
DK GRN
603
A/C Low Pressure Switch Signal
56
--
--
Not Used
57
BLK
552
Low Reference
58-59
--
--
Not Used
60
BRN
2129
Low Reference
61
BRN/WHT
2130
Low Reference
62
GRY
773
Transmission Range Switch Signal C
63
PNK
1224
Transmission Fluid Pressure Switch Signal A
64
DK GRN
890
Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor Signal
65
--
--
Not Used
66
PPL/WHT
2128
IC 8 Control
67
RED/WHT
2122
IC 2 Control
68
DK GRN
2125
IC 5 Control
69
LT BLU
2123
IC 3 Control
70-72
--
--
Not Used
73
DK BLU
1936
Fuel Level Sensor Signal - Secondary
74
LT GRN/WHT
3213
HO2S Heater High Control (w/Isolated Grounded Sensors)
75
--
--
Not Used
76
LT GRN/WHT
1749
IAC Coil B High Control
77
LT GRN/BLK
444
IAC Coil B Low Control
78
LT BLU/BLK
1748
IAC Coil A Low Control
79
LT BLU/WHT
1747
IAC Coil A High Control
80
LT GRN
3212
HO2S Heater Low Reference
Blue Connector
Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function
1
BLK/WHT
451
Ground
2
LT GRN
1867
12 Volt Reference
3
PNK/BLK
1746
Fuel Injector 3 Control
4
LT GRN/BLK
1745
Fuel Injector 2 Control
5-10
--
--
Not Used
11
LT BLU
1876
Knock Sensor 2 Signal
12
DK BLU/
WHT
1869
CKP Sensor Signal
13
ORN/BLK
463
Requested Torque Signal
14
ORN/BLK
1061
UART Serial Data
15
DK BLU/
WHT
774
UART Serial Data
16
-
-
Not Used
17
DK BLU
1225
Transmission Fluid Pressure Switch Signal B
18
RED
1226
Transmission Fluid Pressure Switch Signal C
19
PNK
439
Ignition 1 Voltage
20
ORN
440
Battery Positive Voltage
21
YEL/BLK
1868
Low Reference
22
--
--
Not Used
23
PPL
719
Low Reference
24
--
--
Not Used
25
TAN
1671
HO2S Low Signal - Bank 2 Sensor 2 (w/Case Grounded Sensor)
25
TAN
413
HO2S Low Signal - Bank 2 Sensor 2 (w/Isolated Grounded Sensor)
26
TAN
1667
HO2S Low Signal - Bank 2 Sensor 1 (w/Case Grounded Sensor)
26
TAN
413
HO2S Low Signal - Bank 2 Sensor 2 (w/Isolated Grounded Sensor)
27
--
--
Not Used
28
TAN/WHT
1669
HO2S Low Signal - Bank 1 Sensor 2 (w/Case Grounded Sensor)
28
TAN
413
HO2S Low Signal - Bank 2 Sensor 2 (w/Isolated Grounded Sensor)
29
TAN/WHT
1653
HO2S Low Signal - Bank 1 Sensor 1 (w/Case Grounded Sensor)
29
TAN
413
HO2S Low Signal - Bank 2 Sensor 2 (w/Isolated Grounded Sensor)
30
LT GRN
1478
Coolant Level Switch Signal
31
--
--
Not Used
32
BLK/WHT
771
Transmission Range Switch Signal A
33
PPL
420
TCC Brake Switch/Cruise Control Release Switch Signal
34
WHT
776
Transmission Range Switch Signal P
35
GRY
48
CPP Switch Signal
36
BLK
1744
Fuel Injector 1 Control
37
YEL/BLK
846
Fuel Injector 6 Control
38
PNK/WHT
1101
Damping Lift/Dive Signal
39
--
--
Not Used
40
BLK/WHT
451
Ground
41
BLK
407
Low Reference
41
GRY
720
Low Reference (w/Isolated Grounded Sensor)
42
--
--
Not Used
43
RED/BLK
877
Fuel Injector 7 Control
44
LT BLU/BLK
844
Fuel Injector 4 Control
45
GRY
474
5 Volt Reference
46
GRY
416
5 Volt Reference
47
GRY
597
5 Volt Reference
48
GRY
596
5 Volt Reference
49-50
--
--
Not Used
51
DK BLU
496
Knock Sensor 1 Signal
52
--
--
Not Used
53
BLK
470
Low Reference
54
BLK
452
Low Reference
55
BRN
1456
EGR Valve Position Signal
56
WHT
1579
Fuel Temperature/Composition Signal (w/L59)
57
ORN
440
Battery Positive Voltage
58
DK GRN
1049
PCM Class 2 Serial Data
59
YEL
710
Class 2 Serial Data
60
ORN/BLK
469
Low Reference
61
PNK/BLK
632
Low Reference
62
--
--
Not Used
63
GRY
720
Low Reference (Except w/isolated grounded HO2S)
63
TAN
413
HO2S Low Signal - Bank 2 Sensor 2 (w/Isolated Grounded Sensor)
64
--
--
Not Used
65
PPL
1670
HO2S High Signal - Bank 2 Sensor 2
66
PPL
1666
HO2S High Signal - Bank 2 Sensor 1
67
--
--
Not Used
68
PPL/WHT
1668
HO2S High Signal - Bank 1 Sensor 2
69
PPL/WHT
1665
HO2S High Signal - Bank 1 Sensor 1
70
BRN
1174
Oil Level Switch Signal
71
--
--
Not Used
72
YEL
772
Transmission Range Switch Signal B
73
BRN/WHT
633
CMP Sensor Signal
74
YEL
410
ECT Sensor Signal
75
PNK
1020
Off/Run/Crank Voltage
76
BLK/WHT
845
Fuel Injector 5 Control
77
DK BLU/
WHT
878
Fuel Injector 8 Control
78
--
--
Not Used
79
WHT
687
3-2 Shift Solenoid Valve Control
80
ORN/BLK
510
Low Reference
==========================================
Red Connector
Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function
1
BLK/WHT
451
Ground
2
BRN
418
TCC PWM Solenoid Valve Control
3
TAN
1465
Fuel Pump Relay Control - Secondary
4
--
--
Not Used
5
TAN/BLK
464
Delivered Torque Signal
6
RED/BLK
1228
PC Solenoid Valve High Control
7
RED
1676
EGR Valve Supply Voltage
8
LT BLU/WHT
1229
PC Solenoid Valve Low Control
9
DK GRN/
WHT
465
Fuel Pump Relay Control - Primary
10
WHT
121
Engine Speed Signal
11
DK BLU
604
A/C High Pressure Recirculation Switch Signal
12
--
--
Not Used
13
LT BLU/BLK
396
Cruise Control Engaged Signal
14
--
--
Not Used
15
BRN
25
Charge Indicator Control
16
GRY/BLK
1694
4WD Low Signal
17
DK GRN/
WHT
2523
A/C Request Signal
18
--
--
Not Used
19
BLK/WHT
1695
Axle Switch Signal
20
LT GRN/BLK
822
VSS Low Signal
21
PPL/WHT
821
VSS High Signal
22
RED/BLK
1230
AT ISS High Signal
23
DK BLU/
WHT
1231
AT ISS Low Signal
24
DK BLU
417
TP Sensor Signal
25
TAN
472
IAT Sensor Signal
26
PPL
2121
IC 1 Control
27
RED
2127
IC 7 Control
28
LT BLU/WHT
2126
IC 6 Control
29
DK GRN/
WHT
2124
IC 4 Control
30
--
--
Not Used
31
YEL
492
MAF Sensor Signal
32
LT GRN
432
MAP Sensor Signal
33
DK GRN
1614
Recirculation Door Control
34
DK GRN/
WHT
428
EVAP Canister Purge Solenoid Control
35
--
--
Not Used
36
BRN
436
AIR Pump Relay Control
37-38
--
--
Not Used
39
RED
631
12 Volt Reference
40
BLK/WHT
451
Ground
41
WHT
257
EGR Solenoid Control
42
TAN/BLK
422
TCC Solenoid Valve Control
43
DK GRN/
WHT
459
A/C Compressor Clutch Relay Control
44
--
--
Not Used
45
WHT
1310
EVAP Canister Vent Solenoid Control
46
BRN/WHT
419
MIL Control
47
YEL/BLK
1223
2-3 Shift Solenoid Valve Control
48
LT GRN
1222
1-2 Shift Solenoid Valve Control
49
YEL/BLK
1827
Vehicle Speed Signal
50
DK GRN/
WHT
817
Vehicle Speed Signal
51
YEL/BLK
1227
TFT Sensor Signal
52
GRY
23
Generator Field Duty Cycle Signal
53
--
--
Not Used
54
PPL
1589
Fuel Level Sensor Signal - Primary
55
DK GRN
603
A/C Low Pressure Switch Signal
56
--
--
Not Used
57
BLK
552
Low Reference
58-59
--
--
Not Used
60
BRN
2129
Low Reference
61
BRN/WHT
2130
Low Reference
62
GRY
773
Transmission Range Switch Signal C
63
PNK
1224
Transmission Fluid Pressure Switch Signal A
64
DK GRN
890
Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor Signal
65
--
--
Not Used
66
PPL/WHT
2128
IC 8 Control
67
RED/WHT
2122
IC 2 Control
68
DK GRN
2125
IC 5 Control
69
LT BLU
2123
IC 3 Control
70-72
--
--
Not Used
73
DK BLU
1936
Fuel Level Sensor Signal - Secondary
74
LT GRN/WHT
3213
HO2S Heater High Control (w/Isolated Grounded Sensors)
75
--
--
Not Used
76
LT GRN/WHT
1749
IAC Coil B High Control
77
LT GRN/BLK
444
IAC Coil B Low Control
78
LT BLU/BLK
1748
IAC Coil A Low Control
79
LT BLU/WHT
1747
IAC Coil A High Control
80
LT GRN
3212
HO2S Heater Low Reference
#62
so... i had perfectly fine 4l65e. did a trans swap. and possible tore a wire up in the process? I'm so tempted to just get the harness from a 2500 with 6.080e. now i have to return this internal harness that just came in
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If I could find out which wire it is at the PCM I'll check it. I don't wanna waste a credit revinning my PCM to maybe fix the problem. Would the wire @ the trans be the same color as @ the PCM?
Badass you dbw or dbc?
Badass you dbw or dbc?
#64
dew everything is perfect. it just doesn't read temp right. and when it says trans hot it drives weird and locks and unlocks and shifts way harder cause it thinks the fluid is getting thin from being hot.
this bothers me so bad i sometimes wanna swap a 65 back in it and be done.
this bothers me so bad i sometimes wanna swap a 65 back in it and be done.
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From: jennings,louisiana
Have you checked yours with a laser heat gun? Mine just shows hot but doesn't change how it acts.. It still acts normal.
I bought a piece of clear hose. Put it on the pressure side to the cooler ( so I could see the fluid) hose filled up fast & got warm quick. Kill the truck & put the clear hose on the return side of the cooler. Didn't fill up & had air bubbles in the line. So I was like I'm on to something. Got a rubber hose & went from cooler to clear jug & it filled it pretty fast. So I tried to blow threw the return line back to trans & couldn't ( with mouth) so I removed line from trans & was able to blow threw it with mouth. Put the fitting out the trans & it didn't have anything blocking it so I got the air blower & blew threw the line & trans return with compressed air. Put it all back together & same ****. Went bought a heat gun & now I know it's not getting hot. Once my gauge is @ 250 I can feel heat in the lines & hoses on the feed side. So cooler is working just gauge is being stupid.
I bought a piece of clear hose. Put it on the pressure side to the cooler ( so I could see the fluid) hose filled up fast & got warm quick. Kill the truck & put the clear hose on the return side of the cooler. Didn't fill up & had air bubbles in the line. So I was like I'm on to something. Got a rubber hose & went from cooler to clear jug & it filled it pretty fast. So I tried to blow threw the return line back to trans & couldn't ( with mouth) so I removed line from trans & was able to blow threw it with mouth. Put the fitting out the trans & it didn't have anything blocking it so I got the air blower & blew threw the line & trans return with compressed air. Put it all back together & same ****. Went bought a heat gun & now I know it's not getting hot. Once my gauge is @ 250 I can feel heat in the lines & hoses on the feed side. So cooler is working just gauge is being stupid.
#66
yeah mine will say trans hot and i can grab the lines.
like i said i hooked a snap on modi us up to it and drove around. it read 155 or so most the drive. went up to 170 sitting and such.
i ended up not driving it far enough for the gauge to read wrong. but i don't understand why yours doesn't act weird when it goes into the factory transmission hot limp mode.
I've also though about making it a manual valve bodie and forgetting about all of it. i really have no problem in shifting where i go. and found a sweet set up for a shifter in my center console
like i said i hooked a snap on modi us up to it and drove around. it read 155 or so most the drive. went up to 170 sitting and such.
i ended up not driving it far enough for the gauge to read wrong. but i don't understand why yours doesn't act weird when it goes into the factory transmission hot limp mode.
I've also though about making it a manual valve bodie and forgetting about all of it. i really have no problem in shifting where i go. and found a sweet set up for a shifter in my center console
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From: jennings,louisiana
Well I tried another PCM same ole ****.. I had a guy search gm data base for this problem & he came up with nothing. So I might just get him to enter the problem in data base & see if some else can figure it out.
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Seems kinda hard to believe, but it seems like the new sensor is bad.. We checked the ohms & a given temp @ a certain ohm is about 40 off from the gun.. Badass can you check the ohms on your new harness @ room temp for me..