Daryn

iTrader: (19)

has anyone broke a lvl3 4x4 ? im lookin to do a 4x4 conversion and i have the opportunity to get a lvl3 65e 4x4 with a billet converter. i know its not an almighty 4l80e ..... how long you think it would last in my truck possibly in the 550-600rwhp range?


as for gears... what should i be running with a hair dryer launchin on 4x4... 3.42's .... or 3.73? hmmmmmm


any opinions will be greatly appreciated

bluchev

get the 80e.

blownss06

iTrader: (3)

There is a thread here recentlly on a PB tranny that broke a in or output shaft cannt remember now. PB trannies are 4L60E unless you ask for a 4L65E which brings hardened in and output shafts along with other upgraded parts. With that much HP you will brake a 4L60E of any level from PB. Look into a FLT 4L65E or a 80E.

kbracing96

iTrader: (26)

You really should do your home work, The level 1-2 of PB trannies use the stock input and 4 pinion planets which is what GM considers a 4l60, but their level 3 has the hardened input, beast sun shell and GM 5 pinion planets which is the what GM changed to in the 4l65e .

The other thread in which you are referring to was only a level 2 PB tranny,

http://performabuilt.com/level-3.html

2ktransam has been running a PB level 3 4l65e in his 6l turboed ecsb 4x4 into the 11's

blownss06

iTrader: (3)

LVL3 does not use hardened in or output shafts. Unless they told you this, it is not mentioned on their site. I am not putting PB down, its just like I sayed on that thread I dont want to buy a tranny that doesnt have atleast hardened shafts.

Daryn

iTrader: (19)

i talked to frank yesterday . he says they use hardened shafts

kbracing96

iTrader: (26)

The shafts are hardened, but not BILLET, like the new Level 7 from FLT, but that's why the FLT is a lot more more money. Like i said, you should do your home work and call them.

kbracing96

iTrader: (26)

BTW, FLT doesn't list hardened shafts on there level 5 tranny on there web site either...

Bumpers

iTrader: (10)

You gunna keep the truck the same height? Gearing will depend on you tires size as you know. If your running around a 29" tire with a hair dryer I would say 3.42s

blownss06

iTrader: (3)

I did do my homework. If you read that thread that you post it says that I talked to PB and they told me that they had never had a failure of the 4L60E shafts, which are not hardened and thats why dont use them. They also told me that if I have a 4L65E that I would need to send mines in for rebuilt because if I ordered one I would get a 4L60E w/o hardened shafts and the 5 pinion planets.