PPV Brakes on NNBS
#41
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Excellent visual reference!
Thanks for the measurements. The piston area is significantly smaller than the stock 2 piston floating caliper (2411 sqmm vs 4085 sqmm) so should firm up the pedal a good bit. It actually has a smaller area than any of the aftermarket BBKs for the trucks and most all GM/Brembo/PBR OEM performance calipers. The C6 Z06 6 piston PBR caliper (used with Rudy's brackets) is the closest at 2564. I have not been able to find any reliable measurements for the GMPP Brembo to compare it.
Thanks for the measurements. The piston area is significantly smaller than the stock 2 piston floating caliper (2411 sqmm vs 4085 sqmm) so should firm up the pedal a good bit. It actually has a smaller area than any of the aftermarket BBKs for the trucks and most all GM/Brembo/PBR OEM performance calipers. The C6 Z06 6 piston PBR caliper (used with Rudy's brackets) is the closest at 2564. I have not been able to find any reliable measurements for the GMPP Brembo to compare it.
#42
Launching!
Caliper may need a good burping to.
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arthursc2 (02-03-2022)
#43
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This may be retarded but could I test fit a wheel on a 2019 to know if these brakes fit?
Like I drive a GMT-800 right, so could I just put my wheels on a 2019 to know if they clear? It sounds dumb. Am I retarded?
Like I drive a GMT-800 right, so could I just put my wheels on a 2019 to know if they clear? It sounds dumb. Am I retarded?
#45
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How much farther do the performance/ppv brakes stick out in comparison to the stock 2019s? We may have covered it but just curious
#46
Oof, gonna have to get another set to measure. It's not so much THAT it sticks out, it's WHERE it sticks out. The PPV Brembo brakes have a lot of material near the hub which limits wheel choices. I don't think the 2019+ brakes have that material so close to the hub.
#47
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Ahh understood. I know multiple people with 21s just none that have the PPV brakes obviously.
Maybe I just need to buy a caliper and try it out...
Maybe I just need to buy a caliper and try it out...
#48
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You are talking about these wheels correct? They have a 28mm offset according to OEMWheelsLLC
My GMC Declads have a 31mm offset and your CK162s have a 24mm offset. I am curious to know the spoke thickness. I wonder if my declads wouldn't fit because of spoke thickness.
Edit: Forgot to add backspacing; HC wheels: 6.1, CK162s: 5.94, GMC Declads: 5.97
Now I throw in backspacing because I am wheel dumb and still don't know how a lot of this stuff relates to each other.
I bet on an NBS you still have to do the shimming. I also can't do spacers because my tires are like millimeters away from the fenders, I would be rubbing all day every day.
Last edited by shakenfake; 02-09-2022 at 11:56 AM.
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Drspencer (02-09-2022)
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When it comes to caliper clearance, offset and backspace are not a direct factor. It is all about pad height and spoke design.
This is a snip from BC Forged's site... Notice how a low pad with a flat spoke profile (top left) would have much less caliper clearance than a deep concave high pad design (bottom righ). The flat spoke high pad would allow the most caliper clearance (top right)...
This is a snip from BC Forged's site... Notice how a low pad with a flat spoke profile (top left) would have much less caliper clearance than a deep concave high pad design (bottom righ). The flat spoke high pad would allow the most caliper clearance (top right)...
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#50
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Thank you BigKid that is a fantastic explanation. I am getting the feeling that the declads may not work with these brakes