160 deg t-stat?
#31
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Well I did some searching, and found some info over on LS1GTO.com that has me thinking and changing my tune a little bit. This info was posted by Evil-Twin, a retired GM engineer who worked on the LS1 cooling system. I believe that he is a member here also. When I do my LQ9, I'm going to try and keep my engine running somewhere between 180-200* as Evil-Twin suggests...right now I'm consistently at 175* with a 160* stat, 05 efans, and fans set to come on at 180* and off at 173*. I could easily maintain 180* by bumping the on and off temps up 5* I believe. With the stock stat and clutch fan I was consistently at 195-197, not sure what temp to shoot for...whatever will work with 10:5-1 compression and an agressive tune...maybe 195*? Anyway, here's the links:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1557142528-post8.html
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1554901004-post64.html
So if I'm disecting this correctly, you could run a 160* stat, run it a little cooler, and have the best of both worlds. How about a 180* stat and maintaining a nice middle of the road 190* coolant temp through cooling fan setting, instead of the factory 195-205 spread that I saw with my factory stat (although it was ususally 195-197).
I'm glad this thread came up, it really has me thinking and re-evaluating how I'm going to do my setup
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1557142528-post8.html
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1554901004-post64.html
So if I'm disecting this correctly, you could run a 160* stat, run it a little cooler, and have the best of both worlds. How about a 180* stat and maintaining a nice middle of the road 190* coolant temp through cooling fan setting, instead of the factory 195-205 spread that I saw with my factory stat (although it was ususally 195-197).
I'm glad this thread came up, it really has me thinking and re-evaluating how I'm going to do my setup
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so pretty much what im gettin out of this is that 160* stats work but seem to be better suited for the supercharged guys cause they make so much heat and us n/a guys should stick with the stocker of maybe a 180* stat?
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Well I did some searching, and found some info over on LS1GTO.com that has me thinking and changing my tune a little bit. This info was posted by Evil-Twin, a retired GM engineer who worked on the LS1 cooling system. I believe that he is a member here also. When I do my LQ9, I'm going to try and keep my engine running somewhere between 180-200* as Evil-Twin suggests...right now I'm consistently at 175* with a 160* stat, 05 efans, and fans set to come on at 180* and off at 173*. I could easily maintain 180* by bumping the on and off temps up 5* I believe. With the stock stat and clutch fan I was consistently at 195-197, not sure what temp to shoot for...whatever will work with 10:5-1 compression and an agressive tune...maybe 195*? Anyway, here's the links:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1557142528-post8.html
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1554901004-post64.html
So if I'm disecting this correctly, you could run a 160* stat, run it a little cooler, and have the best of both worlds. How about a 180* stat and maintaining a nice middle of the road 190* coolant temp through cooling fan setting, instead of the factory 195-205 spread that I saw with my factory stat (although it was ususally 195-197).
I'm glad this thread came up, it really has me thinking and re-evaluating how I'm going to do my setup
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1557142528-post8.html
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1554901004-post64.html
So if I'm disecting this correctly, you could run a 160* stat, run it a little cooler, and have the best of both worlds. How about a 180* stat and maintaining a nice middle of the road 190* coolant temp through cooling fan setting, instead of the factory 195-205 spread that I saw with my factory stat (although it was ususally 195-197).
I'm glad this thread came up, it really has me thinking and re-evaluating how I'm going to do my setup
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So without me having to write a novel, you see that I was right In all seriousness, there's a reason that 195 stat is in there and with a proper cooling system you shouldn't have to worry about high temps. For my motor I have a 28" stock radiator with a clutch fan and I've never seen temps higher than 198 with the ac blaring and in rush hour traffic. These motors have extremely tight tolerances and there's a reason they want them to run hot. The performance will be better, the oil will protect better and overall longevity is improved.
As a side note for the FI guys, unless there's a reason you want cold oil for your turbo (which I don't understand nor know jack about), I still wouldn't see why you want to run cooler operating temps in a FI setup. COOL AIR YES but not cool water temps.
As a side note for the FI guys, unless there's a reason you want cold oil for your turbo (which I don't understand nor know jack about), I still wouldn't see why you want to run cooler operating temps in a FI setup. COOL AIR YES but not cool water temps.
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So without me having to write a novel, you see that I was right In all seriousness, there's a reason that 195 stat is in there and with a proper cooling system you shouldn't have to worry about high temps. For my motor I have a 28" stock radiator with a clutch fan and I've never seen temps higher than 198 with the ac blaring and in rush hour traffic. These motors have extremely tight tolerances and there's a reason they want them to run hot. The performance will be better, the oil will protect better and overall longevity is improved.
As a side note for the FI guys, unless there's a reason you want cold oil for your turbo (which I don't understand nor know jack about), I still wouldn't see why you want to run cooler operating temps in a FI setup. COOL AIR YES but not cool water temps.
As a side note for the FI guys, unless there's a reason you want cold oil for your turbo (which I don't understand nor know jack about), I still wouldn't see why you want to run cooler operating temps in a FI setup. COOL AIR YES but not cool water temps.
#39
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This is simply done for emissions. At idle they want it to run hot since there's no load on the engine, there's no risk of detonation. Within a few hundred feet of driving at these temps they'll easily settle down to 195 if the fan doesn't do it. Also 227 degrees may be hot to you, but by todays standards isn't hot by any means. Modern day oils can easily take this and with the composite intake manifolds they air and fuel doesn't get as heat soaked as it did during yesteryear with carbureted setups.
#40
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So without me having to write a novel, you see that I was right In all seriousness, there's a reason that 195 stat is in there and with a proper cooling system you shouldn't have to worry about high temps. For my motor I have a 28" stock radiator with a clutch fan and I've never seen temps higher than 198 with the ac blaring and in rush hour traffic. These motors have extremely tight tolerances and there's a reason they want them to run hot. The performance will be better, the oil will protect better and overall longevity is improved.
As a side note for the FI guys, unless there's a reason you want cold oil for your turbo (which I don't understand nor know jack about), I still wouldn't see why you want to run cooler operating temps in a FI setup. COOL AIR YES but not cool water temps.
As a side note for the FI guys, unless there's a reason you want cold oil for your turbo (which I don't understand nor know jack about), I still wouldn't see why you want to run cooler operating temps in a FI setup. COOL AIR YES but not cool water temps.