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Old 04-04-2006, 07:13 AM
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Default 180 Thermostat but runs 195?

Howcome with a 180 stat it runs about 195?

Is ther a downside to running a 160 stat? Any recommendations as to brand/type?

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not really a downside to running a 160... just have to set your efans differently.

where are you reading the 195* at? your stock temp gauge is a dummy gauge and doesnt read exact. Your probably running around 185 or 190 with the 180* gauge... the exact temps wont be at 180* for long. If you had a 160.. you'd be running around 170-175. But dont watch that gauge.. its not accurate. You are running a bit cooler than the stock stat... stock stat is a 195 but runs around 195-205 or so.
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Originally Posted by SSlow 4.8
not really a downside to running a 160... just have to set your efans differently.

where are you reading the 195* at? your stock temp gauge is a dummy gauge and doesnt read exact. Your probably running around 185 or 190 with the 180* gauge... the exact temps wont be at 180* for long. If you had a 160.. you'd be running around 170-175. But dont watch that gauge.. its not accurate. You are running a bit cooler than the stock stat... stock stat is a 195 but runs around 195-205 or so.

werd, but my stock stat was 212. when logging my 180 with HPT, it ranges anywhere from 177-195 max(115 degree sitting in traffic). when it was stock, driving around with cool weather it would be 200+ most of the time. so the 180 drop the temps a lot IMO. my e fans are set to kick on at 185 and they dont turn on all that much, and when they do theyre only in for a min. but when the hot AZ weather comes theyll be on a lot more!!! haha
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I have a 160* Thermo and log 174-180 constantly. I have my fans come on at 175* and they are on almost all the time. I was aggressive with my timing so I wanted the engine as cool as possible, I don't mind if the fans are on all the time.

A 180* thermo will start to open at 180* not control the temps to no more than 180* if I am not mistaken.
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A 160* thermostat helps in performance, but does hurt in gas mileage!
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Originally Posted by Out1aw
A 160* thermostat helps in performance, but does hurt in gas mileage!

How would it hurt the MPG?
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i was about to do a poll for the t-stat 160 vs. 180 but i think this is a better thread than a poll. so keep it up. i am looking at getting one but dont know which one to get.
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Originally Posted by FarmerBeau
How would it hurt the MPG?
Colder engine=the ablity to burn more gas and make more power.
More power can mean more heat.
The hotter you engine is the less fuel it can burn, when its cold outside do you not see a loss in mileage?
A colder t-stat can mean a loss in mileage because you engine can burn more being cooler.
Another thing to understand is that just because you put in a lower temp
t-stat does not mean it will run at its rated temp, that is just the temp it opens at, the cooling system dicates how efficiently your engine gets cooled.
Bigger radiator, different cooling fluids, the quantity of fluid in the system, type of fans.
There are many factors that affect the temp your engine runs at.
Ambient being a major factor, FI will incuce more of a heat sink effect as well.
The list goes on.....
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Originally Posted by TG02Z71
Colder engine=the ablity to burn more gas and make more power.
More power can mean more heat.
The hotter you engine is the less fuel it can burn, when its cold outside do you not see a loss in mileage?
A colder t-stat can mean a loss in mileage because you engine can burn more being cooler.
Another thing to understand is that just because you put in a lower temp
t-stat does not mean it will run at its rated temp, that is just the temp it opens at, the cooling system dicates how efficiently your engine gets cooled.
Bigger radiator, different cooling fluids, the quantity of fluid in the system, type of fans.
There are many factors that affect the temp your engine runs at.
Ambient being a major factor, FI will incuce more of a heat sink effect as well.
The list goes on.....
Awesome explenation man!
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Originally Posted by Out1aw
A 160* thermostat helps in performance, but does hurt in gas mileage!
Here in California they consider these thermostats to be for 'Off-Road' use only.
A 160/degree thermo would be illegal to run on the streets here in California .... with that being said,
we're running a 170/thermo, and my e-fans are on most of the time. The V-10 means 'HEAT'!

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