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Old 02-10-2013, 06:15 PM
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i might swap them in a second. gas was pumped out after i blew it up. i needed gas for my street bike and was low on cash. i replaced it 2 weeks ago.

map sits right behind the fuel rail cross over
Old 02-10-2013, 07:36 PM
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wish i could just call wheatley and have him confirm my tune just to double check.
Old 02-10-2013, 11:21 PM
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well apparently a safe tune requires a map and a maf
Old 02-10-2013, 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by greasemykey
well apparently a safe tune requires a map and a maf
Well, the PCM needs a way to measure airflow to properly control fueling.
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Originally Posted by greasemykey
well apparently a safe tune requires a map and a maf
What exactly do you mean?
Old 02-11-2013, 08:31 AM
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Bottom line a DBC system will not run without a MAF.
Old 02-11-2013, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by txsz66avlanche
bottom line a dbc system will not run without a maf.
wut???
Old 02-11-2013, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Phantom
wut???
Without tuning the MAF out the engine will start but immediatly stall.
Old 02-11-2013, 10:28 AM
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My old setup ran with the MAF unplugged. It ran, but not so well. When the MAF information is missing, the PCM reverts to the engine airflow tables as discussed earlier. Now if these tables are not correct, the engine will not run.

Speed density tunes require no MAF. The computer is using hard airflow tables that are tweaked based on temperature and pressure (MAP sensor).

A non-speed density tune also uses these tables during transient operations such as acceleration where the MAF cannot provide enough information due to rapid changes.

The moral is: the airflow tables must be suitable for the actual air coming in or you will have an engine that idles poorly, stumbles or dies.

All of the above is referring to air. There may be a problem with fuelling as well, and it's a whole other can of worms. And there is also spark, but in general it shouldn't affect idle to a huge degree.
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Originally Posted by TXSZ66AVLANCHE
Without tuning the MAF out the engine will start but immediatly stall.
Why do you say that?


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