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5176 Dry Kit....How to increase from 150 to 175 shot (vacuum regulator adjstmt)

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Old 04-12-2004 | 05:34 PM
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Default 5176 Dry Kit....How to increase from 150 to 175 shot (vacuum regulator adjstmt)

I have the NOS-5176 kit and want to go from a 150 shot to a 175 shot.

Changing the nitrous jet is easy, but how to increase the fuel?
I believe there is a jet in the nitrous pressure regulator that T's off of the vacuum fuel return line. Can you change the jet in the nitrous vacuum regulator to compensate for a bigger nitrous jet?

I just need 25 more horses....I tried calling NOS, but after 45 minutes of long distance "on hold" for the tech support (ABSOLUTELY FREAKIN REDICULOUS), I gave up. I have called them twice today, with the same outcome.


Anybody that is familiar with this kit, please chime in!
Old 04-12-2004 | 05:41 PM
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Smaller fuel jet = higher pressure; hence more fuel. It's the opposite of a wet kit.

.030-.040 is about the 175hp from my memory...I haven't used nitrous in a looooong time but that should be a ballpark idea.

Also, you should shim the regulator w/ a .020" shim for more pressure.

I'm pulling these sizes from 4 years ago, so they may be off a bit. Hopefully someone else with dry nitrous experience will chime in too.
Old 04-12-2004 | 05:55 PM
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Smaller fuel jet = higher pressure; hence more fuel. It's the opposite of a wet kit.

.030-.040 is about the 175hp from my memory...I haven't used nitrous in a looooong time but that should be a ballpark idea.

Also, you should shim the regulator w/ a .020" shim for more pressure.

I'm pulling these sizes from 4 years ago, so they may be off a bit. Hopefully someone else with dry nitrous experience will chime in too.
Thank goodness someone is at least familiar with this kit! LOL

Does NOS make the shims, or will I need to make do with something in the shop? I wonder what jet it comes with in the kit (to be honest, I've never even opened the blue regulator--looks )
Old 04-12-2004 | 10:06 PM
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Well the 5117-2 Ford kit actually... it's a Ford setup. Same basic premise for a dry setup.

Hrm, I dunno if NOS Systems makes that shim or not. I think I paid a whole $6 for it back in the day. You have to open the big blue thing between the solenoids (if they are attached at a bracket) with a pair of wrenches. You simply toss that washer in there and close it up.

I recall 125hp or 150hp jets being .063 nitrous and .042 fuel for some reason...and if they are flipped it's like a 75hp shot. Also those Power Shot solenoids only flow to like 175hp and I think a .073 or .083 maxed the flow on them.

I'd make sure you have a large enough pump as it seems you have the injector aspect covered. I'd start rich and come down from there. A jet in the .025-.038 area is where I'd start (prolly a .030). PLEASE monitor your A/F levels with some logging decive to be certain on the proper jet...going lean is bad news.

As you know nitorus is pressure dependant so if you don't already have a pressure gauge in the dash area I'd get one as well as a warmer for the bottle too. I didn't like nitrous due to that inconsistancy it created as it could be either too warm or too cool.
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Thanks Hitman, you were right on the money with those jet sizes....I finally got a hold of NOS Tech! ...and yes, 175 is the max I can get out of this kit, per NOS techline

They gave me three part numbers to make the kit a 175 shot from 150:
NOS-17933-00 Spring Shim (put in the blue regulator)
NOS-13750-73 .073 N2O Jet
NOS-17538-42 .042 T-Piece (The T that goes between the 2 solenoids with the regulator in the center) The tech said instead of selling the pills, I have to buy the whole T because the pills are not interchangeable

With my setup, I have an NOS inline fuel pump (came w/kit)
I have a NOS bottle heater with dynotune pressure switch (set to keep pressure from 1000-1050)
N/X Remote Bottle Opener
Inside cab, I have Fuel Pressure & Nitrous Pressure guages

He said to definitely go with the colder plug (I already have NGK-TR6-IX)
Retard the timing more (I have LS1 Timing Tuner)
and hope that the stock motor can take the extra HP without blowing (I guess we'll find out)
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Excellent, glad I could help.
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