Blower Cams and Overlap
#21
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Originally Posted by BigTex
Intake duration= (-8.1) + 180 + 33.1 = 205*
Exhaust duration= 42.8 + 180 + (-10.4) = 212.4*
Exhaust duration= 42.8 + 180 + (-10.4) = 212.4*
http://hometown.aol.com/ffastcbr/caminfo.htm
#22
Originally Posted by Naked AV
Lobe Separation = 114 cam deg
Valve Overlap = -18.6 crank deg
INTAKE
valve open = -8.1 BTDC
centerline = 110 ATDC
valve close = 33.1 ABDC
duration = 205 crank deg
lobe lift = .32236 in.
valve lift = .54802 in.
lobe area = 23.19 in * deg
EXHAUST
valve open = 42.8 BBDC
centerline = 118 BTDC
valve close = -10.4 ATDC
duration = 212.4 crank deg
lobe lift = .31728 in.
valve lift = .53938 in.
lobe area = 23.64 in * deg
Valve Overlap = -18.6 crank deg
INTAKE
valve open = -8.1 BTDC
centerline = 110 ATDC
valve close = 33.1 ABDC
duration = 205 crank deg
lobe lift = .32236 in.
valve lift = .54802 in.
lobe area = 23.19 in * deg
EXHAUST
valve open = 42.8 BBDC
centerline = 118 BTDC
valve close = -10.4 ATDC
duration = 212.4 crank deg
lobe lift = .31728 in.
valve lift = .53938 in.
lobe area = 23.64 in * deg
It seems to be confused by the terminology used:
so valve open = -8.1 BTDC ; really means 8.1 ATDC
and valve close = -10.4 ATDC ; really means 10.4 BTDC
Then your formulas will work if you enter these figures in as negative numbers.
Overlap: -18.50 degrees
Intake Duration: 205.00 degrees
Exhaust Duration: 212.40 degrees
Intake Installed Centerline of 110.60 degrees ATDC.
Exhaust Installed Centerline of 116.60 degrees BTDC.
#23
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Here's what my cam card says,gross lift .588/.598,duration @.006 277/283,valve timing @.050 Int:3 BTDC 45 ABDC Exh:56 BBDC 2- ATDC@111.0 intake center line,duration@.050 int:228 exh:234,lobe lift .3460/.3520,lobe separation 115.0
#24
Originally Posted by whitt1
Here's what my cam card says:
Int:3 BTDC Exh:2- ATDC
Int:3 BTDC Exh:2- ATDC
On a big cube motor, I cant say what size cam I'd use with a blower. I do know that Dennis (427 LS1) swapped in several cams in his truck last year. It had a 427 with a radix. I remember him saying he thought the 224 duration cam he had felt stronger than the larger ones he used. But that may be because the radix is undersized for that combo, so the cmaller cam created more dynamic compression and kept rpms down.
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Originally Posted by Mort
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It seems to be confused by the terminology used:
so valve open = -8.1 BTDC ; really means 8.1 ATDC
and valve close = -10.4 ATDC ; really means 10.4 BTDC
Then your formulas will work if you enter these figures in as negative numbers.
Overlap: -18.50 degrees
Intake Duration: 205.00 degrees
Exhaust Duration: 212.40 degrees
Intake Installed Centerline of 110.60 degrees ATDC.
Exhaust Installed Centerline of 116.60 degrees BTDC.
It seems to be confused by the terminology used:
so valve open = -8.1 BTDC ; really means 8.1 ATDC
and valve close = -10.4 ATDC ; really means 10.4 BTDC
Then your formulas will work if you enter these figures in as negative numbers.
Overlap: -18.50 degrees
Intake Duration: 205.00 degrees
Exhaust Duration: 212.40 degrees
Intake Installed Centerline of 110.60 degrees ATDC.
Exhaust Installed Centerline of 116.60 degrees BTDC.
Am I missing something? check out the calculator I'm using
http://hometown.aol.com/ffastcbr/caminfo.htm
#26
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Originally Posted by SportSide 5.3
are you showing something different? This Calculator I've been using has been accurate so far.
why would you figure overlap at .050?
isn't the correct way at .006?
#28
Ah. Your's sorta works backwards where you need the ve's to find the duration and timing.
Go to proracingsim.com
Download the demo.
You can do some easier figuring. Most of the time your going to see X camshaft and wonder what the valve events are.
Go to proracingsim.com
Download the demo.
You can do some easier figuring. Most of the time your going to see X camshaft and wonder what the valve events are.
#29
Overlap: -18.50 degrees
Intake Duration: 205.00 degrees
Exhaust Duration: 212.40 degrees
Intake Installed Centerline of 110.60 degrees ATDC.
Exhaust Installed Centerline of 116.60 degrees BTDC.
That's what I get using your calculator and filling it in w/ Nakid's camshaft. Make sure if you have a negative IVO or EVC for .05, to type it in negative.
Intake Duration: 205.00 degrees
Exhaust Duration: 212.40 degrees
Intake Installed Centerline of 110.60 degrees ATDC.
Exhaust Installed Centerline of 116.60 degrees BTDC.
That's what I get using your calculator and filling it in w/ Nakid's camshaft. Make sure if you have a negative IVO or EVC for .05, to type it in negative.
#30
Originally Posted by moregrip
I entered in the values just as you said, came out the same 18.5 degrees overlap.
Am I missing something? check out the calculator I'm using
http://hometown.aol.com/ffastcbr/caminfo.htm
Am I missing something? check out the calculator I'm using
http://hometown.aol.com/ffastcbr/caminfo.htm