A/C Belt Gettingy
#11
Been there. Used to wait to leave the driveway until it quit
Annoying as f**
On that truck that did it I never did mess with fixing it though. New truck is starting to develop a little bit of that issue and I think it's just an old belt that needs to be replaced. It's original.
I'm a tech and back in the day we had a rash of Chrysler Caravans come through with belt squeaks and none of us techs at the shop ever found anything wrong with them and the only thing that would fix them was the gator back belt.
It's the one with all the slits across the ribs. And I think continental now makes one...?
Annoying as f**
On that truck that did it I never did mess with fixing it though. New truck is starting to develop a little bit of that issue and I think it's just an old belt that needs to be replaced. It's original.
I'm a tech and back in the day we had a rash of Chrysler Caravans come through with belt squeaks and none of us techs at the shop ever found anything wrong with them and the only thing that would fix them was the gator back belt.
It's the one with all the slits across the ribs. And I think continental now makes one...?
#12
TECH Junkie
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Hahaa lmfao.
Man that's crazy that they didn't get the alignment right. I considered asking about alignment but you seemed to know more out of the gate so I didn't mention it. There's almost nothing you can do for a misalignment except fix it, or that belt. Just googled the continental quiet belt. Looks exactly like the gatorback that used to cure our issues in the shop.
Do you think someone could custom CNC you a pulley with a better offset to get the alignment correct?
Man that's crazy that they didn't get the alignment right. I considered asking about alignment but you seemed to know more out of the gate so I didn't mention it. There's almost nothing you can do for a misalignment except fix it, or that belt. Just googled the continental quiet belt. Looks exactly like the gatorback that used to cure our issues in the shop.
Do you think someone could custom CNC you a pulley with a better offset to get the alignment correct?
#13
Hahaa lmfao.
Man that's crazy that they didn't get the alignment right. I considered asking about alignment but you seemed to know more out of the gate so I didn't mention it. There's almost nothing you can do for a misalignment except fix it, or that belt. Just googled the continental quiet belt. Looks exactly like the gatorback that used to cure our issues in the shop.
Do you think someone could custom CNC you a pulley with a better offset to get the alignment correct?
Man that's crazy that they didn't get the alignment right. I considered asking about alignment but you seemed to know more out of the gate so I didn't mention it. There's almost nothing you can do for a misalignment except fix it, or that belt. Just googled the continental quiet belt. Looks exactly like the gatorback that used to cure our issues in the shop.
Do you think someone could custom CNC you a pulley with a better offset to get the alignment correct?
https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...-540316/page9/
#14
TECH Junkie
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Yeah I was just referring to the squeak portion.
But thinking about the balancer and both issues..
Which balancer are you using? The OEM has an outer ring bonded to the inner and those are bad about starting to come apart/shifting over time and can cause alignment issues. Especially with a blower. A new OE pulley may be a good idea to try and they're fairly cheap
But thinking about the balancer and both issues..
Which balancer are you using? The OEM has an outer ring bonded to the inner and those are bad about starting to come apart/shifting over time and can cause alignment issues. Especially with a blower. A new OE pulley may be a good idea to try and they're fairly cheap
#15
Yeah I was just referring to the squeak portion.
But thinking about the balancer and both issues..
Which balancer are you using? The OEM has an outer ring bonded to the inner and those are bad about starting to come apart/shifting over time and can cause alignment issues. Especially with a blower. A new OE pulley may be a good idea to try and they're fairly cheap
But thinking about the balancer and both issues..
Which balancer are you using? The OEM has an outer ring bonded to the inner and those are bad about starting to come apart/shifting over time and can cause alignment issues. Especially with a blower. A new OE pulley may be a good idea to try and they're fairly cheap
Funnily enough, my 05 Silverado which was a turbo truck, had like 130k on the original balancer and a/c belt, then I put another ~20k on it at 725whp and that belt never once came off. Granted, positive displacement setups are vastly different than turbocharged when it comes to belt / balancer load.
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#16
TECH Junkie
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Gotcha
Well you could try to make your a/c belt tensioner manual somehow, or try to rig something up to make it hold the belt tighter to see if that helps.
I'm picturing putting the used one on and making a mark on where it sets. Then taking it off and drilling a hole in the arm and tapping a hole behind that to put a bolt through it to hold it in place, then put it on and crank it over and put the bolt through... I don't know, just throwing **** out at this point
Well you could try to make your a/c belt tensioner manual somehow, or try to rig something up to make it hold the belt tighter to see if that helps.
I'm picturing putting the used one on and making a mark on where it sets. Then taking it off and drilling a hole in the arm and tapping a hole behind that to put a bolt through it to hold it in place, then put it on and crank it over and put the bolt through... I don't know, just throwing **** out at this point
#17
TECH Enthusiast
The stretch belt is actually pretty easy to install. I removed the tensioners from both our SS's and did the later style stretch belt. Working great for thousands of miles now..
Gates has a little install tool but I couldn't make it fit on an '06 6.0, so I just laid the belt on the compressor pulley, then zip tied the belt to the crank pulley and turned it with a breaker bar to finish it up.
Something to try anyway. If it doesn't help, you're only out the cost of the belt.
Richard
Gates has a little install tool but I couldn't make it fit on an '06 6.0, so I just laid the belt on the compressor pulley, then zip tied the belt to the crank pulley and turned it with a breaker bar to finish it up.
Something to try anyway. If it doesn't help, you're only out the cost of the belt.
Richard
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00pooterSS (01-29-2020)
#18
The stretch belt is actually pretty easy to install. I removed the tensioners from both our SS's and did the later style stretch belt. Working great for thousands of miles now..
Gates has a little install tool but I couldn't make it fit on an '06 6.0, so I just laid the belt on the compressor pulley, then zip tied the belt to the crank pulley and turned it with a breaker bar to finish it up.
Something to try anyway. If it doesn't help, you're only out the cost of the belt.
Richard
Gates has a little install tool but I couldn't make it fit on an '06 6.0, so I just laid the belt on the compressor pulley, then zip tied the belt to the crank pulley and turned it with a breaker bar to finish it up.
Something to try anyway. If it doesn't help, you're only out the cost of the belt.
Richard
#19
TECH Junkie
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I couldn't picture where to use the zip ties either
Some stretch belts I can get on by just holding them up on the pulley and walking them on with a ratchet on the crank. Some I have to tie something through the pulley IF it has holes in it. I've used hose clamps for this too before and it worked out great. Zip ties would work just as well if you have one that's strong enough.
Some stretch belts I can get on by just holding them up on the pulley and walking them on with a ratchet on the crank. Some I have to tie something through the pulley IF it has holes in it. I've used hose clamps for this too before and it worked out great. Zip ties would work just as well if you have one that's strong enough.
#20
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I think the proper way to put them on is to:
Slip over crank, let rest between timing cover and pulley
slide onto AC clutch
work on to pulley from the back end
When I did the G8 I read some guy did it like this, got it started on the crank then started the car. Worked for him. I didnt risk it, I turned the motor over by hand lmao
Slip over crank, let rest between timing cover and pulley
slide onto AC clutch
work on to pulley from the back end
When I did the G8 I read some guy did it like this, got it started on the crank then started the car. Worked for him. I didnt risk it, I turned the motor over by hand lmao
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