holy **** man lol good post.

 

That's really strange the cat code is still setting with the other codes turned off.

 

Uhhh...thanks Flipper. I can read and clear the code, but it still only sets when the cat code goes off. I guess I'll have to lower the line pressure. It's set at like 90% or higher. That cat code is what's bugging me. Are we ABSOLUTLY sure that is only the rear sensor? I guess I could turn that one off to.

 

DTC P0420 or P0430
Circuit Description
In order to maintain low emissions of hydrocarbons (HC), carbon monoxide (CO), and oxides of nitrogen (NOx), the engine controls system uses a 3-way catalytic converter. The catalyst within the converter promotes a chemical reaction, which oxidizes the HC and COthatare presentin the exhaust gas. This reaction converts thesechemicals into harmless water vapor andcarbondioxide. Thecatalyst also reduces the NOx which converts intonitrogen. The powertrain control module (PCM)monitors this process using Bank 1of the HO2S 2, which is located in theexhaust stream pastthe 3-way catalytic converter. Bank 1 of the HO2S 2produces anoutput signalwhich indicates the oxygen storagecapacity of the catalyst. This determines the catalyst's ability to effectively convert the exhaust emissions. If the catalyst is functioningcorrectly, the Bank 1 of the HO2S 2 signal will be far less activethan the signal that is produced byBank 1 of the HO2S 1. Thisindicatesthat the 3-way catalytic converter's oxygen storagecapacity is below an acceptable threshold.

The PCM performs this diagnostic test at idle. When the conditions for running this DTC are met, the following occurs:

The PCM captures the current rear HO2S rich-to-lean status.
The air-to-fuel ratio transitions from rich to lean or from lean to rich, depending on the capture rear HO2S rich-to-lean status.
The air-to-fuel ratio transitions a second time opposite the first air-to-fuel ratio transition.
The PCM captures the response time of the front and rear heated oxygen sensors when the air-to-fuel ratio transitions occur. The HO2S response time goes from less 300 mV to more than 600 mV, and from more than 600 mV to less than 300 mV.
The PCM measures the time it takes the rear HO2S voltage to cross a reference rich-to-lean threshold, minus the time it takes the front HO2S voltage to cross the same rich-to-lean threshold. The difference betweenthe frontHO2S timeand the rear HO2S time is the oxygen storagecapacityof the catalyst. This DTC setsif the time exceeds a predetermined threshold.
Conditions for Running the DTC
• DTCs P0101-P0103, P0106-P0108, P0112, P0113, P0117, P0118, P0125, P0131-P0135, P0137, P0138, P0140, P0141, P0151-P0155, P0157, P0158, P0160, P0161, P0171, P0172, P0174, P0175, P0200, P0300, P0325, P0327, P0335, 336, P0341-P0343, P0351-P0358, P0443, P0446, P0449, P0502, P0503, P0506, P0507, P1120, P1125, P1133, P1134, P1153, P1154, P1220, P1221, P1275, P1276, P1280, P1281, P1285, P1286, P1441, P1514, P1515, P1516, P1517, or P1518 are not set.

• The intake air temperature (IAT) is more than -15°C (+5°F), but less than 75°C (167°F).

• The barometric pressure (BARO) is more than 74 kPa (10.7 psi).

• The engine is operating.

• The engine coolant temperature (ECT) is more than 70°C (158°F), but less than 120°C (248°F).

• Since the end of the last idle period, the engine speed is more than 900 RPM for a minimum of:

- 20 seconds for manual transmissions

- 30 seconds for automatic transmissions

• The closed loop fuel control is enabled.

Conditions for Setting the DTC
The PCM determines if oxygen storage capability of the catalytic converter has degraded to less than a calibrated threshold.

Action Taken When the DTC Sets
The control module illuminates the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) when the diagnostic runs and fails.
The control module records the operating conditions at the time the diagnostic fails. The control module stores this information in the Freeze Frame/Failure Records.
Conditions for Clearing the MIL/DTC
• The control module turns OFF the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) after 3 consecutive ignition cycles that the diagnostic runs and does not fail.

• A current DTC, Last Test Failed, clears when the diagnostic runs and passes.

• A history DTC clears after 40 consecutive warm-up cycles, if no failures are reported by this or any other emission related diagnostic.

• Clear the MIL and the DTC with a scan tool.

Test Description
The numbers below refer to the step numbers on the diagnostic table.

Before you replace the 3-way catalytic converter, correct any conditions which may have damaged the catalyst.

Step
Action
Yes
No

1
Did you perform the Diagnostic System Check-Engine Controls?
Go to Step 2
Go to Diagnostic System Check - Engine Controls

2
Are anyother DTCs set?
Go to the applicable DTC table
Go to Step3

3
Check for the following conditions:

• Verify that the 3-way catalytic converter is an original equipment part.

• Inspect the 3-way catalytic converter for damage from the following conditions:

- Dents

- Severe discoloration caused by excessive temperatures

- Holes

- Other conditions

• Verify that an internal 3-way catalytic converter rattle that is caused by a damaged catalyst is not present.

• Inspect the exhaust system for the following conditions:

- Leaks

- Damage

- Loose hardware

- Missing hardware--Refer to Exhaust Leakage in Engine Exhaust.

• Verify that the HO2S 1 and the HO2S 2 are secure, and ensure that the pigtails and the wiring are not damaged or contacting the exhaust.

Did you find and correct the condition?
Go to Step 5
Go to Step 4

4
Replacethe catalytic converter. Refer to Catalytic Converter Replacement in Engine Exhaust.

Did you complete the replacement?
Go to Step5
--

5
Use the scan tool in order to clear the DTCs.
Turn OFF the ignition for 30 seconds.
Start the engine.
Operate the vehicle within the Conditions for Running the DTC as specified in the supporting text.
Does the DTC run and pass?
Go to Step 6
Go to Step 2

6
With a scan tool, observe the stored information, Capture Info.

Does the scan tool display any DTCs that you have not diagnosed?
Go to Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List
System OK

 

P0420 and P0430 are not front or rear O2 codes. They are just diagnostic codes that say there is a problem with the catalytic converters basically. You can turn them off no problem.

 

I've had the temps checked on the cats and they are firing they way they should. I think the driver side is 80* hotter before the cats, and not on the header. I just think the sensors are bad. I'm not spending $100 on new ones either. I'll just turn the codes off since I know the cats are still OK. I'll buy new ones when I sell the truck.