first oil change?
#13
Originally Posted by jessdog
so its safe to say that you can switch the syn say 4000 miles? I am in the same boat, time for the first oil change.
#15
Originally Posted by zippy
i'd recomend a new pf 46 with some standard 10w30 oil. make sure to reset the oil life moniter. after the change oil lite comes on after that, i'd use mobil 1 10w30 in the summer and 5w30 in the winter with a pf46.
Interesting. You and someone else say they use 10w-30 in summer and 5w-30 in the winter.
This is not beneficial in any way. Heres why:
10w-30 or 5w-30 represents a multi viscosity oil. The lower # being the the weight of the oil at start up (cold temps) and the high # being the weight at full operating temp.
At 20*F the 5w will be 5 weight and the 10w will be 10 weight. Making the 5w lighter and more fluid, so it would make sense to use the 5w in the winter.
But in the summer when it is 90*F ( these temps are for example only) and your engine and oil is already 85*F your 10w will be more like 15w at this time and so will the 5w oil. So it is easy to see there is no benfit from 10w in the summer at start up.
Now for the 30 part. 30 means 30 weight. It is the maximum weight your oil can reach under full operating temperature. And since 5w-30 and 10w-30 both max out at the same weight it would make more sense to run 5w-30 all the time because you will have broarder protection year round.
If anything you could run a 10w-40 in the summer for a little extra protection, but I don't think it is neccesary and the manufacture does not recommend it.
=Dave
#16
Originally Posted by diamondd2
Interesting. You and someone else say they use 10w-30 in summer and 5w-30 in the winter.
This is not beneficial in any way. Heres why:
10w-30 or 5w-30 represents a multi viscosity oil. The lower # being the the weight of the oil at start up (cold temps) and the high # being the weight at full operating temp.
At 20*F the 5w will be 5 weight and the 10w will be 10 weight. Making the 5w lighter and more fluid, so it would make sense to use the 5w in the winter.
But in the summer when it is 90*F ( these temps are for example only) and your engine and oil is already 85*F your 10w will be more like 15w at this time and so will the 5w oil. So it is easy to see there is no benfit from 10w in the summer at start up.
Now for the 30 part. 30 means 30 weight. It is the maximum weight your oil can reach under full operating temperature. And since 5w-30 and 10w-30 both max out at the same weight it would make more sense to run 5w-30 all the time because you will have broarder protection year round.
If anything you could run a 10w-40 in the summer for a little extra protection, but I don't think it is neccesary and the manufacture does not recommend it.
=Dave
This is not beneficial in any way. Heres why:
10w-30 or 5w-30 represents a multi viscosity oil. The lower # being the the weight of the oil at start up (cold temps) and the high # being the weight at full operating temp.
At 20*F the 5w will be 5 weight and the 10w will be 10 weight. Making the 5w lighter and more fluid, so it would make sense to use the 5w in the winter.
But in the summer when it is 90*F ( these temps are for example only) and your engine and oil is already 85*F your 10w will be more like 15w at this time and so will the 5w oil. So it is easy to see there is no benfit from 10w in the summer at start up.
Now for the 30 part. 30 means 30 weight. It is the maximum weight your oil can reach under full operating temperature. And since 5w-30 and 10w-30 both max out at the same weight it would make more sense to run 5w-30 all the time because you will have broarder protection year round.
If anything you could run a 10w-40 in the summer for a little extra protection, but I don't think it is neccesary and the manufacture does not recommend it.
=Dave
#17
the problem with that theory is the wider the spread on the multi viscosity oil, the sooner and easier it is to get it to break down. this is the reason 10w40 is so unpopular. 5w30 is considerably more likely to break down than 10w30.
#18
Originally Posted by zippy
the problem with that theory is the wider the spread on the multi viscosity oil, the sooner and easier it is to get it to break down. this is the reason 10w40 is so unpopular. 5w30 is considerably more likely to break down than 10w30.
=Dave