Has anyone completely removed their TM?
01-01-2010, 08:49 AM
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Brutal, removing TM doesn't make your truck any more powerful. Nor will it make you launch faster or improve your throttle response. TM pulls timing between shifts, helping to preserve the tranny. I am running full TM regularly, 50% TM in Tow/Haul. The difference is the computer only pulls half the degrees out during a shift, allowing it to get back to a full advance after the shift, effectively making the same power it was, just faster. When the comp. pulls timing, it does it instantly, like 8* or something like that. After the shift, it adds it in at something like 2* at a time, so the idea is to only pull half and you get back to full advance faster.
01-01-2010, 09:22 AM
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Brutal, removing TM doesn't make your truck any more powerful. Nor will it make you launch faster or improve your throttle response. TM pulls timing between shifts, helping to preserve the tranny. I am running full TM regularly, 50% TM in Tow/Haul. The difference is the computer only pulls half the degrees out during a shift, allowing it to get back to a full advance after the shift, effectively making the same power it was, just faster. When the comp. pulls timing, it does it instantly, like 8* or something like that. After the shift, it adds it in at something like 2* at a time, so the idea is to only pull half and you get back to full advance faster.
01-02-2010, 03:25 AM
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The heavier or more powerful your truck is, the more important torque management during shifts. TM was a brilliant idea of GM engineers so the company could save money by using cheaper parts in their transmissions. And from my experience they do not even hold up in completely stock applications.
Shift TM does not cause a lag when you mash the go pedal. That would be Abuse Management/Mode or Brake Torque Management(if one foot is on the brake) kicking in. On a stock trans I would leave in some Shift Torque Reduction. Not that I am an expert, just my .02.
Shift TM does not cause a lag when you mash the go pedal. That would be Abuse Management/Mode or Brake Torque Management(if one foot is on the brake) kicking in. On a stock trans I would leave in some Shift Torque Reduction. Not that I am an expert, just my .02.
I have had built 60s... well they could not have been so called built, cause they died on me. Weight and power are the 2 biggest factors. For the record the 60e will hold great if driven with sense and no TM. Start making some power or add more weight, and tranny goes puke... If your keeping that tranny I would say keep TM.
I am just saying 800rwhp can be driven daily with TM and you would have great street manners and not worry about anything breaking, when tuned/calibrated correctly. My 2cents.
01-02-2010, 07:59 AM
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01-02-2010, 08:29 AM
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So trans preservation aside, what advantage is there to not having your computer pull timing before shifts and obviously having full timing right after the shift? Because if someone is running with 0% TM then they'll have full timing throughout the shifting process right? I just don't want to waste my time with pulling TM if it's not going to do anything for me.
01-02-2010, 09:40 AM
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Yeah I'm pretty much set on the 80/100 split. I don't ever plan on taking my truck to the track and I don't beat on it either. Would it be safe to say that if you had 2 trucks that were exactly the same but one had 100% of its TM removed, the one with no TM would be faster?
01-02-2010, 06:09 PM
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Yeah I'm pretty much set on the 80/100 split. I don't ever plan on taking my truck to the track and I don't beat on it either. Would it be safe to say that if you had 2 trucks that were exactly the same but one had 100% of its TM removed, the one with no TM would be faster?
You won't know the difference anyways.
