Mandrel bends
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Mandrel bends
How important is mandrel bent exhaust pipe? I can't find anyone around who can mandrel bend pipe, but they are willing to order mandrel bends, and weld them together.
Anyway, really how much do you gain going to mandrel bent pipe. Mine isnt mandrel bent, but its not choked down much anywhere eigther. Just wondering how much Im leaving on the table. 1-2 hp, or 10-20??
Anyway, really how much do you gain going to mandrel bent pipe. Mine isnt mandrel bent, but its not choked down much anywhere eigther. Just wondering how much Im leaving on the table. 1-2 hp, or 10-20??
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Oh btw, this is a N/A application. currently I have factory manifolds, straight pipe to the Y. Factory Y pipe, into a single 3" cut out to 3" Bullet to 3" Magnaflow tunning out the back and dumping behind the rear tire.
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Thats kind of what I was thinking. I know it makes a bigger difference on F/I applications, I just dont see where there is a huge restriction, so I figured it really didnt matter for me.
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matt,
darryl @ autotech in gonzales does mandrel bending i'm pretty sure. and he does good work for cheap too. i don't let anyone else touch my exaust anymore but him
darryl @ autotech in gonzales does mandrel bending i'm pretty sure. and he does good work for cheap too. i don't let anyone else touch my exaust anymore but him
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mandrel bends are cool and everything, but by just running the next size larger pipe accomplishes a lot more flow wise. A 2.5' mandrel bent piece will not outflow a 2 3/4' crimp bent piece.
of course this all depends onthe quality of the normal bend, if it crimps horrible them of course the mandreel bends ar going to flow better.
headers are mandrel bent.
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of course this all depends onthe quality of the normal bend, if it crimps horrible them of course the mandreel bends ar going to flow better.
headers are mandrel bent.
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Originally Posted by crazyidiot4.8
matt,
darryl @ autotech in gonzales does mandrel bending i'm pretty sure. and he does good work for cheap too. i don't let anyone else touch my exaust anymore but him
darryl @ autotech in gonzales does mandrel bending i'm pretty sure. and he does good work for cheap too. i don't let anyone else touch my exaust anymore but him
Thats who did mine. Its not mandrel, we talked about it, and both agreed, I was just wondering what some other opinions were. I definatly did find a new muffler guy though.
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Really it doesn't matter that much. if you're running FI and you have crimp bended headers (i realize they don't make such a thing) then you would see an inprovement with mandrel, or if you have a very restrictive exhaust system otherwise, you might see improvement.
But on the whole, if you have 2.5" true duals going, or a 3" Y pipe to a single pipe of the same diameter, there's very little to be gained by going to mandrel bends.
But on the whole, if you have 2.5" true duals going, or a 3" Y pipe to a single pipe of the same diameter, there's very little to be gained by going to mandrel bends.
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It really depends on the size of the pipe, your flow requirements and the angle of the bend in question. Anything under 45* I would say crush/crimp bends will be fine as long as the pipe diameter is 2.5" for dual or 3" for single. If you have a 90* bend in your system, especially if it is a 2.5" or smaller, the flow is going to be severly hampered by a crush where a crimp wouldn't be as bad. The thing about a mandral bend is that no matter what the degree of the bend is, the pipe diameter stays uniform. On a crimp bend, the higher the degree of the bend, the more the pipe is ovaled or flattened. With a crimp bend the diameter is reduced as well as creating an unsmooth surface on the inner wall of the bend creating more turbulance in that area. If you exhaust guy is good, he should be able to fabricate you a good flowing exhaust with a series of shallow crush bends instead of a few deep (>45*) bends. If you look at my exhaust, I only have one 90* bend (over the axle). The rest are 45's eventhough they are mandral. If they weren't, I would have had it fabricated with a series of more shallow bends.
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Originally Posted by BigKID
It really depends on the size of the pipe, your flow requirements and the angle of the bend in question. Anything under 45* I would say crush/crimp bends will be fine as long as the pipe diameter is 2.5" for dual or 3" for single. If you have a 90* bend in your system, especially if it is a 2.5" or smaller, the flow is going to be severly hampered by a crush where a crimp wouldn't be as bad. The thing about a mandral bend is that no matter what the degree of the bend is, the pipe diameter stays uniform. On a crimp bend, the higher the degree of the bend, the more the pipe is ovaled or flattened. With a crimp bend the diameter is reduced as well as creating an unsmooth surface on the inner wall of the bend creating more turbulance in that area. If you exhaust guy is good, he should be able to fabricate you a good flowing exhaust with a series of shallow crush bends instead of a few deep (>45*) bends. If you look at my exhaust, I only have one 90* bend (over the axle). The rest are 45's eventhough they are mandral. If they weren't, I would have had it fabricated with a series of more shallow bends.