Which muffler out of these do ya'll like the most?
#31
Well, I want more performance then sound however, I don't loud, rappy, popping. I would like a throaty nice chrip sound that is deep, lets my cam talk a little, and has little to no drone. I would like a healthy/growling such as Naked AV described it or throaty such as I have described it. I have a Edelbrock Cat-back right now, I love the deep idle but when it revs it just sounds deep, no growling at all...of course...could be the two 2 1/2 into one, high flow cat, and one muffler that is 22" long.
#34
Originally Posted by YenkoST
Well, I want more performance then sound however, I don't loud, rappy, popping. I would like a throaty nice chrip sound that is deep, lets my cam talk a little, and has little to no drone. I would like a healthy/growling such as Naked AV described it or throaty such as I have described it. I have a Edelbrock Cat-back right now, I love the deep idle but when it revs it just sounds deep, no growling at all...of course...could be the two 2 1/2 into one, high flow cat, and one muffler that is 22" long.
I got the Borla because its good ****, stainless AND the tone. I almost got Corsa but I did not want a chambered muffler. That and I see WAY too many of their kits returned for baffles broken loose and rattling in the muffler. Im not paying out the *** for that crap.
IMO ITS ALL OVER PRICED!! Its just up to you where you wanna but it from.
#36
Ok I hear bad things about flowmasters every day here and I dont like posting in these threads cause well, I've went through 3 magnaflows that were mildly loud, not bad but I didnt like the sound. I've had aero's and they were sweet but again not the right sound. I've even had do I dare say cherry bomb glasspacks those were rediculously loud and obnoxious liked it but not the 125$ ticket for being too loud.
My 97 wt had a 4.3 with edelbrock ypipe header system, no cat and a Flowmaster 40series that I got for 70bucks at autozone, ok 72.91 with tax. It cost about 50 bucks to put on and bend a pipe and put on a tip that dumps in front the rear right wheel.
When I started it I had never heard anything that nice before. Alot of people say that they dont flow worht a sh*t. I disagree completely. I might not have a v8 or an LSx motor but with this setup I felt a difference. I love the sound and because I had 3.42 gears it shifted about 2000-2250rpm and was never too loud. Not raspy not obnoxious and sounded awesome at WOT actually I hear about 60%motor and 40%muffler at WOT.
So really and truely it is up to YOU not someone else what you think is best for you app. Maybe a magnaflow will flow more but they might not be what you're looking for and such was MY case. I love flowmasters and unless I go with straight pipes i.e. no mufflers, I'll never own anything different.
My 97 wt had a 4.3 with edelbrock ypipe header system, no cat and a Flowmaster 40series that I got for 70bucks at autozone, ok 72.91 with tax. It cost about 50 bucks to put on and bend a pipe and put on a tip that dumps in front the rear right wheel.
When I started it I had never heard anything that nice before. Alot of people say that they dont flow worht a sh*t. I disagree completely. I might not have a v8 or an LSx motor but with this setup I felt a difference. I love the sound and because I had 3.42 gears it shifted about 2000-2250rpm and was never too loud. Not raspy not obnoxious and sounded awesome at WOT actually I hear about 60%motor and 40%muffler at WOT.
So really and truely it is up to YOU not someone else what you think is best for you app. Maybe a magnaflow will flow more but they might not be what you're looking for and such was MY case. I love flowmasters and unless I go with straight pipes i.e. no mufflers, I'll never own anything different.
#37
Originally Posted by LS1_is_GOD
When I started it I had never heard anything that nice before. Alot of people say that they dont flow worht a sh*t. I disagree completely. I might not have a v8 or an LSx motor but with this setup I felt a difference. I love the sound and because I had 3.42 gears it shifted about 2000-2250rpm and was never too loud. Not raspy not obnoxious and sounded awesome at WOT actually I hear about 60%motor and 40%muffler at WOT.
#39
Here.... From LS1Tech.... Compare the cfm of the Flows to that of a Hooker Aero... Proofs in the pudding. SuperFlo bench.
The results in HP order:
1.Flowtech Warlock (open) 374.2 hp/ 333.1 tq
2.Bassani Real Street 373.7 hp/ 333.8 tq
3.Hooker Maxflow 373.5 hp/ 333 tq
4.Borla XS 373.3 hp/ 332.6 tq
5.Magnaflow 372.8 / 332.5 tq
6.MAC 372.3 hp / 331.5 tq
7.Flowtech Afterburner 372.3 hp/ 330.1 tq
8.Hooker Aerochamber 372.1 hp/ 330.4 tq
9.Bassani 372 hp/ 333.5 tq
10.Spintech 371.6 hp/ 332.2 tq
11.Edelbrock Performer RPM 370.9 hp / 331.3 tq
12.Borla XR1 370 hp/ 334 tq
13.Flowtech Terminator 369.5 hp / 331.3 tq
14.Dynomax Ultra Flo 369.4 / 333.2 tq
15.Flowmaster 369.4 hp / 331.8 tq
16.Flowtech Warlock 366.3 hp / 325.3 tq
17.No muffs 365.2 hp / 330.1 tq
Sound Off in Quietest to Loudest (Decibels):
1.Borla XS, 80db at idle, 90db at 2,000 rpm, 110db at WOT.
2.Hooker Maxflow, 80db at idle, 90db at 2,000 rpm, 120db at WOT.
3.Magnaflow, 82db at idle, 91 at 2,000 rpm, 114db at WOT.
4.Flowmaster, 82db at idle, 93 at 2,000 rpm, 115db at WOT.
5.Flowtech Warlock, 83db at idle, 92 at 2,000 rpm, 112db at WOT.
6.Dynomax UltraFlo, 83db at idle, 94 at 2,000 rpm, 113db at WOT.
7.Borla XR1, 83db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, 118db at WOT.
8.Bassani Street, 83db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, 120db at WOT.
9.Edelbrock RPM, 84db at idle, 93db at 2,000 rpm, 118db at WOT.
10.Bassani Real Street, 84db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, MAX. (120+db).
11.Flowtech Afterburner, 86db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 115db at WOT.
12.Flowtech Terminator, 86db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 119db at WOT.
13.Hooker Aerochamber, 87db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 114db at WOT.
14.SpinTech, 87db at idle, 97db at 2,000 rpm, 116db at WOT.
15.MAC, 87db at idle, 98db at 2,000 rpm, 119db at WOT.
16.No Muffler, 91db at idle, 103db at 2,000 rpm, MAX. (120+db).
Some flow tests:
2 “ Straight Pipe 283 CFM
2 ¼ “ Straight Pipe 365 CFM
2 ½ “ Straight Pipe 521 CFM
2 ¼” Typical Bent tailpipe 268 CFM
2 ½” Typical Bent Tailpipe 417 CFM
2 ¼” Inlet/Outlet_ Glass Pack Tips- No Louvers- Smooth 274 CFM
2 ¼” Inlet/Outlet- Glass Pack Tips-Louvered 133 CFM
2 ¼” Cherry Bomb 239 CFM
2 ½” Cherry Bomb 294 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Dynomax Super Turbo 278 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Ultraflow Bullet 512 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Gibson Superflow 267 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Flowmaster ( 2 Chamber) 249 CFM
2 ½” Inlet Outlet Flowmaster ( 3 Chamber) 229 CFM
2 ¼” Inlet/Outlet Thrush CVX 260 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Maremount Cherry Bomb 298 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Hooker Aero Chamber 324 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Hooker Max Flow 521 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Borla Turbo 373 CFM
2 1/2" Inlet/Outlet Magnaflow 284 CFM
Standard OEM 2 ¼” Inlet/Outlet 138-152 CFM
Standard OEM 2 ½” Inlet/Outlet 161-197 CFM
The results in HP order:
1.Flowtech Warlock (open) 374.2 hp/ 333.1 tq
2.Bassani Real Street 373.7 hp/ 333.8 tq
3.Hooker Maxflow 373.5 hp/ 333 tq
4.Borla XS 373.3 hp/ 332.6 tq
5.Magnaflow 372.8 / 332.5 tq
6.MAC 372.3 hp / 331.5 tq
7.Flowtech Afterburner 372.3 hp/ 330.1 tq
8.Hooker Aerochamber 372.1 hp/ 330.4 tq
9.Bassani 372 hp/ 333.5 tq
10.Spintech 371.6 hp/ 332.2 tq
11.Edelbrock Performer RPM 370.9 hp / 331.3 tq
12.Borla XR1 370 hp/ 334 tq
13.Flowtech Terminator 369.5 hp / 331.3 tq
14.Dynomax Ultra Flo 369.4 / 333.2 tq
15.Flowmaster 369.4 hp / 331.8 tq
16.Flowtech Warlock 366.3 hp / 325.3 tq
17.No muffs 365.2 hp / 330.1 tq
Sound Off in Quietest to Loudest (Decibels):
1.Borla XS, 80db at idle, 90db at 2,000 rpm, 110db at WOT.
2.Hooker Maxflow, 80db at idle, 90db at 2,000 rpm, 120db at WOT.
3.Magnaflow, 82db at idle, 91 at 2,000 rpm, 114db at WOT.
4.Flowmaster, 82db at idle, 93 at 2,000 rpm, 115db at WOT.
5.Flowtech Warlock, 83db at idle, 92 at 2,000 rpm, 112db at WOT.
6.Dynomax UltraFlo, 83db at idle, 94 at 2,000 rpm, 113db at WOT.
7.Borla XR1, 83db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, 118db at WOT.
8.Bassani Street, 83db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, 120db at WOT.
9.Edelbrock RPM, 84db at idle, 93db at 2,000 rpm, 118db at WOT.
10.Bassani Real Street, 84db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, MAX. (120+db).
11.Flowtech Afterburner, 86db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 115db at WOT.
12.Flowtech Terminator, 86db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 119db at WOT.
13.Hooker Aerochamber, 87db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 114db at WOT.
14.SpinTech, 87db at idle, 97db at 2,000 rpm, 116db at WOT.
15.MAC, 87db at idle, 98db at 2,000 rpm, 119db at WOT.
16.No Muffler, 91db at idle, 103db at 2,000 rpm, MAX. (120+db).
Some flow tests:
2 “ Straight Pipe 283 CFM
2 ¼ “ Straight Pipe 365 CFM
2 ½ “ Straight Pipe 521 CFM
2 ¼” Typical Bent tailpipe 268 CFM
2 ½” Typical Bent Tailpipe 417 CFM
2 ¼” Inlet/Outlet_ Glass Pack Tips- No Louvers- Smooth 274 CFM
2 ¼” Inlet/Outlet- Glass Pack Tips-Louvered 133 CFM
2 ¼” Cherry Bomb 239 CFM
2 ½” Cherry Bomb 294 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Dynomax Super Turbo 278 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Ultraflow Bullet 512 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Gibson Superflow 267 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Flowmaster ( 2 Chamber) 249 CFM
2 ½” Inlet Outlet Flowmaster ( 3 Chamber) 229 CFM
2 ¼” Inlet/Outlet Thrush CVX 260 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Maremount Cherry Bomb 298 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Hooker Aero Chamber 324 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Hooker Max Flow 521 CFM
2 ½” Inlet/Outlet Borla Turbo 373 CFM
2 1/2" Inlet/Outlet Magnaflow 284 CFM
Standard OEM 2 ¼” Inlet/Outlet 138-152 CFM
Standard OEM 2 ½” Inlet/Outlet 161-197 CFM
#40
That's some good info...I wish Gibson was on that list so I'd have something to compare to when I make my muffler selection (I wanna be able to hear mine). I think it's neat how some mufflers will be louder than others at idle, but quieter at WOT, and vise-versa...more things to consider