Nelson Vs. Others
03-16-2004, 08:14 PM
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[QUOTE=Hit Man X]First... what the hell couldn't you resist about? Trying to start something or what? If so I as well as other members have no time for pissing matches/frivolous information. It doesn't appear you have any proof to your claims that you are making. That's if you are trying to prove something. In any event, if you have nothing of importance to add please do not add your 2¢ to this thread.
A little Anger management may be in oder here.
Pissing matches/frivolous information
nothing of importance ?
Tell me how you made the 2 cent sign and it will be the first real info I've gotten from you in my 2 years here.
A little Anger management may be in oder here. Pissing matches/frivolous information nothing of importance ? Tell me how you made the 2 cent sign and it will be the first real info I've gotten from you in my 2 years here.
03-16-2004, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Hit Man X
First... what the hell couldn't you resist about? Trying to start something or what? If so I as well as other members have no time for pissing matches/frivolous information. It doesn't appear you have any proof to your claims that you are making. That's if you are trying to prove something. In any event, if you have nothing of importance to add please do not add your 2¢ to this thread.
I saw Lance's truck get faster with Allen's basic tuning, on top of that when he explicitly asked for total TqMgt removal Westers left some in there...not what he asked for. That's conservative if you ask me... Mr Webster defines it as:
1. Opposed to change
2. Moderate; not extreme
3. Protecting from loss, waste, or injury
4. Preservative
Hrm... sounds like the way I described Westers tune on Lance's truck fit the bill. His 87 tune ran better than the 93 tune also.
Also on my truck I had Allen flash me a "mailorder" tune then we tuned it to the nail. I noticed no difference in performance over the mailorder vs the driven tune. Basically it was pretty much right on the first time out. We added maybe 2* timing up top and a tad more fuel, not enough to register the gains.
Before you start something, be prepared to end it also.
I saw Lance's truck get faster with Allen's basic tuning, on top of that when he explicitly asked for total TqMgt removal Westers left some in there...not what he asked for. That's conservative if you ask me... Mr Webster defines it as:
1. Opposed to change
2. Moderate; not extreme
3. Protecting from loss, waste, or injury
4. Preservative
Hrm... sounds like the way I described Westers tune on Lance's truck fit the bill. His 87 tune ran better than the 93 tune also.
Also on my truck I had Allen flash me a "mailorder" tune then we tuned it to the nail. I noticed no difference in performance over the mailorder vs the driven tune. Basically it was pretty much right on the first time out. We added maybe 2* timing up top and a tad more fuel, not enough to register the gains.
Before you start something, be prepared to end it also.
03-16-2004, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 99Silver5.3
I couldnt resist......
Nelsons, Nelsons. A thousand times, NELSONS!
But you have edit!!! Please before you attack me this was meant as a joke, don't take it the wrong way
03-16-2004, 10:30 PM
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man now i am different. nelson is a better tune. period. no pissing match at all. i gave lyndon 4 chances. no dice. handhelds are not all that. a custom tune is what you need. yes i have a hands on tune. but the very first tune i got from allen was a 4 tenths improvement over my westers and the driveability was a lot better.
if you just want to run good---westers--conservative.
if you want to win---nelson performance--bad a**
and yes if all had a chance to geta hands on tune they would. i have seen first hand people besides myself happier with a nelson tune over westers. and yes they are mail order tunes. yes i do have a edge. but i choose to keep the edge due to experience and word o mouth. but it is up to you. hey good luck man. guess the westers guys were scared of the sbso. they were all nelson tuned trucks. hmmmmmm.
if you just want to run good---westers--conservative.
if you want to win---nelson performance--bad a**
and yes if all had a chance to geta hands on tune they would. i have seen first hand people besides myself happier with a nelson tune over westers. and yes they are mail order tunes. yes i do have a edge. but i choose to keep the edge due to experience and word o mouth. but it is up to you. hey good luck man. guess the westers guys were scared of the sbso. they were all nelson tuned trucks. hmmmmmm.
03-16-2004, 11:39 PM
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I've been talking to Allen, while I haven't had a chance to run his tune yet, I can say the guy is cool as **** to talk to and deal with. That alone would make it worth while.
03-17-2004, 04:18 PM
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Wow, it seems as some of you have involved yourselves in hobbies that arent suitable to your personalities. In all honesty I wish I werent so isolated, Id love to have some fast modded trucks around here, it seems like nothing ever takes place in FL. I had a HPP3 first and that was terrible. Ive got Westers and I really like it. I didnt have too much info on Nelson at the time, but I would definately be up to getting a hands on tune! How many have driven vehicles tuned by both??? Would you say that one is better at S/C apps than another?? Someone said a 4 tenths difference between Nelson and Lyndon?!! That is incredible. I know Westers is $100 more, but other than that do they have the same policies (unlimited tunes, updates, etc)?
03-17-2004, 05:33 PM
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i have had them all. i started with a hyperdeusch. 
then i got a paperweightpredator. 
. then i hasd lyndon do me a tune. the first tune was a good one. then i needed all tqm removed and after 4 tries it didnt work. 
then i met allen/farmtruc/nelson performance.and i am the one that gained 4 tenths of a second fromn westers to allens tune. as for s/c allen is the man to see for that to. 
man you need a custom tune. and allenj can do it. 
nelson perf 
then i got a paperweightpredator. . then i hasd lyndon do me a tune. the first tune was a good one. then i needed all tqm removed and after 4 tries it didnt work. then i met allen/farmtruc/nelson performance.and i am the one that gained 4 tenths of a second fromn westers to allens tune. as for s/c allen is the man to see for that to. man you need a custom tune. and allenj can do it. nelson perf
03-17-2004, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 02denali
i have had them all. i started with a hyperdeusch. then i got a paperweightpredator. . then i hasd lyndon do me a tune. the first tune was a good one. then i needed all tqm removed and after 4 tries it didnt work. then i met allen/farmtruc/nelson performance.and i am the one that gained 4 tenths of a second fromn westers to allens tune. as for s/c allen is the man to see for that to. man you need a custom tune. and allenj can do it. nelson perf
then i got a paperweightpredator. . then i hasd lyndon do me a tune. the first tune was a good one. then i needed all tqm removed and after 4 tries it didnt work. then i met allen/farmtruc/nelson performance.and i am the one that gained 4 tenths of a second fromn westers to allens tune. as for s/c allen is the man to see for that to. man you need a custom tune. and allenj can do it. nelson perf