Notices
GM Engine & Exhaust Performance EFI | GEN I/GEN II/GEN III/GEN IV Engines |Small Block | Big Block |

pinging and cant add timing HELP

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-14-2013, 02:15 PM
  #1  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
greasemykey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Portsmouth, VA
Posts: 1,152
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default pinging and cant add timing HELP

so i dropped off my truck at the dyno yesterday and today i get a call saying that he cant add more than 13 degrees of timing at WOT because of pinging.

its a ls 383 with prc 5.3 stage 2.5 heads 63cc combustion chambers, cometic .040 gaskets, flat top pistons, fast lsxrt intake, 57 lb/hr injectors, lt headers and thats about it. if im right my compression ratio should be around 11.2-11.5:1 and on 91 octane i should be ok. now i am running a vette filter on a square fuel rail. would the internal regulator have something to do with this? tuner thinks i installed the cam wrong or i have more compression than i think i do. i installed the cam dot to dot. i am about to set this truck on fire. i need ideas to fix this.
Old 08-14-2013, 02:48 PM
  #2  
On The Tree
iTrader: (1)
 
03klugss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Berrien Center,MI
Posts: 103
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

What are your full cam specs? DCR (dynamic compression ratio) is a big factor.


Strange that they can't get any more than 13 degrees without and I am guessing they actually here it pinging?

Last edited by 03klugss; 08-14-2013 at 03:25 PM.
Old 08-14-2013, 03:03 PM
  #3  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (5)
 
kelsey_canard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 959
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

What plugs are you running? May need a colder plug. Also, are you using the 99-01 operating system? They are prone to false knock. Is it audible knock?
Old 08-14-2013, 03:07 PM
  #4  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
greasemykey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Portsmouth, VA
Posts: 1,152
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by kelsey_canard
What plugs are you running? May need a colder plug. Also, are you using the 99-01 operating system? They are prone to false knock. Is it audible knock?

Its audible. Im running tr6 plugs with .035 gap.
Old 08-14-2013, 03:08 PM
  #5  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (5)
 
kelsey_canard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 959
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

What air fuel ratio are you running?
Old 08-14-2013, 03:10 PM
  #6  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
greasemykey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Portsmouth, VA
Posts: 1,152
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I have no clue. I was not there when he was tuning
Old 08-14-2013, 03:11 PM
  #7  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
greasemykey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Portsmouth, VA
Posts: 1,152
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Im starting to think its the LSXRT.
Old 08-14-2013, 03:18 PM
  #8  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (5)
 
kelsey_canard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 959
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Make sure you are rich enough at wide open throttle. Might have to run that motor a little on the rich side. Cam specs really do need to be posted as well.
Old 08-14-2013, 03:53 PM
  #9  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
greasemykey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Portsmouth, VA
Posts: 1,152
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

228/234 @.588 112lsa
Old 08-14-2013, 03:58 PM
  #10  
TECH Fanatic
Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
greasemykey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Portsmouth, VA
Posts: 1,152
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

the one thing i have noticed is that when it started to ping the throttle was over half open and the intake starts to collapse on itself. im wondering if as its collapsing if its causing a lean condition by leaking by the o-ring between the upper and lower intake parts.


Quick Reply: pinging and cant add timing HELP



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:05 AM.