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Old 01-23-2004, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by F8LPONY
Have you tried all the basis in tuning like changing fuel filter and such??

*bumb maybe but remember KISS*
or cooler running spark plugs.

Jim had a good point on the GM top engine cleaner. Seafoam is the same stuff from NAPA. Although this didn't help my whipple pinging, it may help his.
Old 01-23-2004, 11:01 PM
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seafoam is cool, i did that to my truck not long ago, when they said use it in a well ventalated area i figured that meant open both garage doors , i couldnt see 12" in front of my face, beter put it outside

i think even if the ati kit wasn't intercooled it would be able to run more boost since it only boosts at a higher rpm.

i think your prety much screwed with that blower being that you live in vegas, i didn't even try and beat on my truck when it was over 90deg out.
Old 01-23-2004, 11:37 PM
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6lb's in vegas on a 10-1 motor isn't going to work well at all, dont matter where you get it tuned. it may work ok in some parts of the country.

I totally concur with this. That hot air supercharger is gonna be useless out there. Espically with 10:1 comp. I am suprised they sold you that. I'd have told you what I am about to say:

Try to take it back and get a refund. If not, remove and sell. Use the loot for a cam + ported heads, stall converter, and a tune. I'd run better than that KB setup ever could. Heck that $3500 or whatever that setup cost will almost buy you an Eagle stroker kit now-a-days.

I honestly do not see you gaining much power with that even tuned fully just the wrong appication. Hell my intercooled WRX still turns into a turd during the summer here in Texas (temps in LV should be about the same in the summer) so I'd think that the KB would just knock retard down to nothing for timing advance and no power gains.

If you feel like making an air-to-water IC setup that's a viable option but seems like a PITA to me. The Whipple/KB kits are just poorly setup like BigTex said. Bend me over for like $4000 for an inferior kit? Get lost. Both are just setup bad, it really shocks me that they are still sold like that.
Old 01-23-2004, 11:55 PM
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Well, the average temps for the last month has been 60 or below, so the weather should not even be a problem right now, since he is recently posting this. I can't believe Whipple won't even look at it for you, Mother Puckers! I bought a Supercharger system from Stillen for my 99 Maxima, and it kept shredding belts, and the hose clamps would not hold the pressure. I complained to them and they told me that it is the installers responsibility, well guess what, they installed it. I complained to them again, and I got some customer service rep that was supposed to help me. I always got his message machine, and he never returned my calls. I would call tech support, and they would ask me my name, and after I gave it to them, they would put me on hold until I would hang up. I went to California again to complain and was escorted out of the building for no reason. I refused to go, so the police came and officially 86ed me out of there!

Screwed me out of $4000 bucks for the charger and install, and was 1" from being in prison for shooting eveyone in the damn building. Talked to 3 lawyers and none wanted to take my case cuase the dollar amount was too low!

If you are in Vegas, take it to Combination Motorsports, and hopefully they will help you. I think most of these companies setup what it needs to work on your truck, test it for 20 minutes, say, oh this works, then sell it. Then they won't back up their own product. MagnaCharger so far is the only one that I seen will take care of you and back their product.
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your right about the temps, i just figured it was always hot there. with highs in the 60's it should run ok. still not a very good set up considering that it is usualy much hotter there.

hodgeee is right, i bet seth would at least try and help ya out. i called just to ask a couple of quick questions tonight and we were on the phone for about an hour. i am not used to that kind of customer service, he really takes the time to explain stuff to you.
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I'm in Las Vegas and does anybody have the number for Combination Motorsports? I Could under stand that the system is a piece of junk if it never made power, but it made good power when I first installed it last summer and it was hot in June. This system does'nt use a inter cooler and with 6lbs does it really create that much heat under that little bit of boost? It uses a dry manifold with bigger injectors(60% larger I'm told).
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Yes ... it will create that much heat!

Have you checked to make sure that beast is getting fuel? Get a fuel pressure gauge on it and make sure it isn't dropping off at the top. You might should try replacing the pressure regulator. If it was removed from the factory manifold and replaced on a new one, there may be a small O-ring that is messed up. Again ... check that and make sure it's in there right. You might pull that regulator out and replace that o-ring just for grins.

I had that happen to me once. It looked OK, but it was causing me 10 kinds of hell. It showed up after the install too. It ran like a champ for a while, then all the sudden it started cutting out up top.
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if you were happy with it in the summer then you must have a problem, probably a simple one too. a scan tool and a fuel presure gauge would tell alot. along with a look at the plugs. if you dont what to buy all the stuff to diagnose the problem then i am sure there are several shops in vegas than can check it out for you. just be sure and let them know it worked fine for awhile.

i say some seafoam and a set of new tr6's for starters, if that dont help then it is time to find a shop that you can trust.
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Boost creates LOTS of heat...espically with a HO motor already like you have. 10:1 + 6psi is crazy heat generation. Whenever it goes under load, you are probably spiking by 15-25* easy consdering the setup.

Have you done anything to upgrade your cooling system? 3/4 ton rad, 160* thermo, etc?


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