View Poll Results: True dual 2.5" or 3.0"
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True Dual 2.5" or 3.0"
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I went with 2.5 and no H pipe. Pictures and video will be coming. It is so much quieter! Surprisingly no drone what so ever. Muffler shop sucks, but it's functional. I love the sound of the Magnaflow.
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If you can, coat the pipes in cooking oil, start the truck, and watch where the cooking oil bakes off first. That is where your restriction is, and where you should put your balance pipe.
If you compare strictly the cross-sectional areas of the pipe, a dual 2.5" set-up will have 9.8175 in^2, a single 3" will have 7.0686 in^2, dual 3" will have 14.1372 in^2, and a 4" single pipe will have 12.5664 in^2.
Granted, its not quite an apples to apples comparison among them due to the dynamics of the gas through the pipe (heat, behavior of the gas near the pipe wall, etc) but its a rough comparison for discussion's sake.
But in short, yes, it can be safely assumed a dual 2.5" will outflow a single 3", and a dual 3" will outflow a single 4". Now the effects of one size versus another is a whole other conversation.
Granted, its not quite an apples to apples comparison among them due to the dynamics of the gas through the pipe (heat, behavior of the gas near the pipe wall, etc) but its a rough comparison for discussion's sake.
But in short, yes, it can be safely assumed a dual 2.5" will outflow a single 3", and a dual 3" will outflow a single 4". Now the effects of one size versus another is a whole other conversation.
I agree that 2 equal, straight lengths of 2.5" piping will outflow a single, straight piece of 3" piping of the same length. I don't see where that explains 2.5" true duals over a 3" single.
First, not sure of ebay header collector size, most I've seen were 3" collectors. Wouldn't going from 3" collectors to a 2.5" pipe create a restriction? And then hurt the scavenging effect in the heads?
I have one bend in my exhaust setup. I'm pretty sure a true dual setup is going to have more. I was always under the impression, the less bends the better.
Also, going from a 2.5" pipe to a 3" muffler inlet would create a lower delta p. But a pressure drop will also create a delta T. Wouldn't a lower exhaust temp also hurt exhaust flow and/or performance?
Doesn't a true dual setup have a muffler for each pipe? Wouldn't 2 pipes to one muffler create another restriction?
Suddog, if I'm pissing you off, sorry. Let a mod know, I have no problem with this post getting deleted. I'd just like a little more proof on why I'm wrong.
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Glad you like it. Post up some pics
Doesn't a true dual setup have a muffler for each pipe? Wouldn't 2 pipes to one muffler create another restriction?
Suddog, if I'm pissing you off, sorry. Let a mod know, I have no problem with this post getting deleted. I'd just like a little more proof on why I'm wrong.
Doesn't a true dual setup have a muffler for each pipe? Wouldn't 2 pipes to one muffler create another restriction?
Suddog, if I'm pissing you off, sorry. Let a mod know, I have no problem with this post getting deleted. I'd just like a little more proof on why I'm wrong.
No problems at all. Everyone has a different opinion and I appreciate your input. I asked for opinions and everyone gave theirs. Ask ten people how to make a truck go fast...get ten different answers.
You are right, it is not true duals. I didn't even think about that.
I was all for the 3" dual as I thought I needed it. I do agree that going from a 2.5 pipe to a 3" opening will allow the gas to expand and then get compressed again slightly before exiting the tail pipe. In my opinion, what I did was in essence make my muffler act a tad bit bigger. Gases will cool slightly after expanding and the velocity will slow down a bit.
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plain and simple most of your gains are made when you remove your major restrictions (stock muffler, cats if possible, stock iron manifolds) what you do with your exhaust pipe and muffling (assuming you use high flow mufflers) is honestly mostly for sound and aesthetics. you may notice some differences between 3" single to 2.5" duals to 3" duals and various mufflers on a dyno but most of the difference you might notice driving is usually imaginary. for the typical small block V8 anything bigger than 2.5" single is plenty. once you've opened up the exhaust that's that, you're not getting any more. in short, differences in flow of different sized unrestricted pipes (in the common exhaust sizes) are negligible on the road IMO.
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