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Old 09-11-2013 | 09:29 AM
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There is no cam sensor relearn.

The cam sensor jumper harness runs under a metal channel that runs behind the harmonic balancer. Make sure that the harness is not pinched, cut or routed wrong. Then look at the connector that is at the top of the oil pan where the jumper harness connects. Make sure that a pin has not pushed out.

For your 02 sensor. Check the #8 fuse in the underhood fuse block.

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Old 09-11-2013 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by myth
There is no cam sensor relearn.

The cam sensor jumper harness runs under a metal channel that runs behind the harmonic balancer. Make sure that the harness is not pinched, cut or routed wrong. Then look at the connector that is at the top of the oil pan where the jumper harness connects. Make sure that a pin has not pushed out.

For your 02 sensor. Check the #8 fuse in the underhood fuse block.

Hope this will help
I have dble and triple chkd fuses and oulled the whole fuse block chkn for shorts or bent/damaged prongs and havent found any issues there .. And prior to leaving for work tonight i checked #8 and #18 bith my O2 fuses and are good ... A while bck i chked both sides O2s voltage and were fine then swapped them to opposite sides n passenger side fine with drivers still dead .. I just hadnt had time to get a continuity check on the rest of the wires on the drivers O2 to check wire isnt bad .. Im leaning more to the ECM now ..

I will double chk that harness your talking about .. Thats the harness the cam sensor is off of .. It appeared fine when i changed the sensor but i wasnt the actual hands on it changing it lol my bro in law hopped down under truck cuz i cudnt reach it from top lol .. But i will double check for my own peace of mind lol .. Im going to try n get tge continuity of that O2 harness dome this weekend .. Still have my money on ECM being culprit but u never kno ..
Old 09-22-2013 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 01WS6/tamu
That code is for a wiring open or short circuit between the pcm and the cam phaser or faulty cam position actuator. That's the 2 wire connector on the front of the timing cover dead square in the middle.

It's not a problem related to needing to re run a CKP relearn procedure. It's either a hard failure or a mis pinned wire during the pcm swap.

The only real way to figure it out is a tech 2 or equivalent scanner and a trouble tree for the code and follow it out.
I dont have this 2 wire connector from what i see .. i did not locate but one two wire connector and it was lower left side at the a/c compressor i think ..anyway it wasnt at the middle of timing cover anyways .. the one in the middle is the 3 wire connector on the cam sensor that i changed

Originally Posted by myth
There is no cam sensor relearn.

The cam sensor jumper harness runs under a metal channel that runs behind the harmonic balancer. Make sure that the harness is not pinched, cut or routed wrong. Then look at the connector that is at the top of the oil pan where the jumper harness connects. Make sure that a pin has not pushed out.

For your 02 sensor. Check the #8 fuse in the underhood fuse block.

Hope this will help
I checked the continuity on this harness connecting to the cam sensor and checked all three wires (blue w/white stripe to pin 64, brown to pin 66 and solid blue to pin 44 all three on the grey connector on ECM) ... i think i am going to safely rule out bad wires for these issues with cam sensor and o2 sensor bank and am going to just wait and buy a new ecm when funds available... meantime it stays running as is and on too the new issue at hand ... starting a new thread on that later

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Old 09-24-2013 | 05:19 PM
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Now i get P0010 and P0340 .. Getting hard starts and a misfite/stutter every 10-15 mins of driving .. Started with hard starts after i checked continuity .. What the hell ?? Didnt do anything but unplug the harness and check at the respective pins i mentioned previously then plugged everything back in.. All wires tested good .. Guess im just gunna hafta change ecm when i can n see if that eliminates the problem .. The hardstarts and stutter has never happened until after i checked them .. Coincidence??
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Clear the DTC and see if the 340 comes back. The 340 is a missing or erratic cam sensor signal to the pcm. This is the cause of the hard start long start and or stumble stall. The tests you did should have no effect but while trouble shooting it's possible to set false codes and the pcm goes to a known programmed default and as a result have to clear them after doing trouble shooting.
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Originally Posted by 01WS6/tamu
Clear the DTC and see if the 340 comes back. The 340 is a missing or erratic cam sensor signal to the pcm. This is the cause of the hard start long start and or stumble stall. The tests you did should have no effect but while trouble shooting it's possible to set false codes and the pcm goes to a known programmed default and as a result have to clear them after doing trouble shooting.
I had unhooked battery Again to reset everything and left it unhooked for app 5 mins ... It cleared the codes initially and I have not checked codes again but the long start and stutter was still there when it started and left for work last night... I left it home tonight and will unhook battery for longer time and clear codes again just to be sure I didn't let it sit long enuff yesterday
Old 09-25-2013 | 11:40 PM
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Ok someone posted a comment on this thread and I replied back and now it's gone? Both their comment and my reply are gone and their name isn't on members list either now? If Its who I'm thinking it was I will kick ur azz lil boy I am not playing with you got it?
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Time to get a scanner and look at some data without it you'll run yourself crazy.
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Originally Posted by 01WS6/tamu
Time to get a scanner and look at some data without it you'll run yourself crazy.
I didn't think bout data logging lol I can log and get my tuner to look at it ... It just won't happen at this moment ... Hopefully the stutter will show in the log and I can decipher that issues lol .. I will be getting a new ecm as soon as it can get funded ... New house budget eating a hole in my wallet doesn't allow for play money yet ... But will be in near future
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I feel ya buddy wife and I have a baby on the way due in Jan and trying to buy our house we are renting before baby gets here. Never enough dough to go around.


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