maximumrebel1

Obama does benefit from the GM takeover greatly. The communist front organization known as the AFL-CIO heavily supports socialist agenda's in this country this is why all the politicians (especially liberals) suck them off every election cycle. If GM went bankrupt they would restructure and come out on the other side a much more efficient operation and more than likely either ditch the union or severely cut there ludicrous wages and benefits. Then the UAW and the parent org. the AFL-CIO would be upset that Barry didn't side with the unions and insure that their perpetual rape and pillage of the big 3 is allowed to continue. This would cost BHO votes in 2012.

maximumrebel1

Original motor the trans went at like 202k. 354k is a lot but there is/was a guy on these boards that had a 99 like mine with over 500k like a year or two ago, it was verified by a pic.

We have all GM vehicles in our fleet (although supposedly that will change now that Barack has nationalized GM) one of our trucks a 04 Chevy RCSB 4.8 has like 290k same motor same trans.

Spoolin

iTrader: (8)

The steps that Obama has taken towards GM is political suicide. He knew that before going in yet he pushed on anyways because it was what was required and necessary of him and our elected government to do in order to prevent the collapse of our already fragile economy. I'm sorry but that takes ***** to do that. He wasn't elected to turn us in a socialist or fascist society. He was elected to lead us through these troubled times and that requires unpopular decisions to be made. In a perfect world I wouldn't agree with everything he's done but at least he's made the right choices as upposed to the popular ones when dealing with the future of our economy. Something none of the other presidents have had the ***** to do before.
You can chose to have a leader in office who makes the unpopular decisions or you can choose to have a people pleaser who who is there only to please his consituents and backers.

And the AFL-CIO supports him because he supports Labor, the same cannot be said for McCain.

maximumrebel1

I will preface this by saying I campaigned hard against McAmnesty as well as Obama, so don't take my anti Obama comments as pro republican or pro McCain because that is very far from the truth. I am a member of the Constitution Party.

I realize this is not a political board and if a mod sees fit to move these comments than so be it.

First, It doesn't appear that you share my beliefs that unions in general and specifically in this case the AFL-CIO (at the top) are run by communist/fabian socialists. I have several friends who, much to my chagrin are members of the IAFF another tentacle of the AFL-CIO so again don't take these comments that I hate everyone in unions (although I fully encourage them to leave). John Sweeney president of the AFL-CIO is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America and the Trilateral Commission.


I don't know how familiar you are with the Trilateral Commission but I can assure you their interests are far from the best interest of Americans. For further reading I HIGHLY recommend the book None Dare Call It Treason by John Stormer, it was written in the mid 60's and is one of the best books I have read regarding the onslaught of Marxism in the US.

Unions and ridiculous US corporate income taxes have driven the big 3 to this precipice. The Federal Government is never the solution and is always the problem, they run NOTHING more efficiently than private enterprise so to argue that they can turn things around at GM is laughable if it wasn't so devastatingly serious.

The best thing for America and GM would be to let it file Chapter 11, which would allow restructuring and keep them in business without our money. Many companies have gone in and out of chapter 11 this shouldn't be confused with Chapter 7.

Spoolin

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I believe Unions in most industries have served their purpose but are no longer necessary due to the protectionist labor laws that are in place today. However, IMO there are some industries where Unions still are necessary. Specifically those that deal in international business where not all labor laws apply.
I am in fact of member of a Union that happens to be a part of the AFL-CIO, that doesn't mean I support the AFL-CIO (quite the contrary actually) but concerning my best interest as a union member it is necessary for my union to be affiliated with them and be under their umbrella. Numbers always speak louder than an individual with a louspeaker. The problem is the message the numbers represent isn't always the message of the individuals, as you are pointing out.

Also, in an ideal situation the government should keep their mits off GM, however, GM is gonna file for bankrupcy, and without the Government finiancial backing/credit in place, as you already did mention, a chapter 7 would be much more likely than an chapter 11.
I guess I see it as a necessary evil.

misteroman

As a GM powertrain employee(laid-off) let me tell ya that we had the engine all set up and were starting the intial testing when they canceled it so it has nothing to do with tooling the factories.We really didn't get a good explanation but it wasn't a tooling cost issue as most of it was done.

Thechevyman122

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im a youngin but here is what i think:
1.) im busting my *** at texas a&m trying to get an engineering degree,yet i wont make as much as alot of factory workers because of unions(first and biggest problem)
2.) our vehicles have nothing to do with the name gm. if "gm" went out of businees, then investors whether foriegn or native would swoop in and grab it. along with the purchase, would come the factories, tooled for our vehicles, and more than likely job offerings to most of the engineers.
3.) a company and its vehicles are merely represented by that generations design team, ceo, management etc. in our life time, had gm not had any problems at all, we could see the staff turnover, and end up with a company specializing in hybrids and small compacts. and ford emerge as the best truck on the market etc etc.
4.) everyone talks about how much gm struggles. gm U.S. struggles, and despite number drops across the board, gm is still profitable in many other global sectors.
5.) the key is to hit equilibrium in pricing vs cost vs profit. for instance, if a company only sold 10 products a year but made 10,000 dollars on each product they would be better off than selling 10,000 products at 10 dollars. Reason behind this logic, is supply demand and organization. moving less products keeps the demand high, and being tight knit keeps products of more controlled quality. I guess what im trying to say is, lamborghini sells a line of some of the most expensive cars, but are still a PROFITABLE company because it is not sold at to low of a price and supply is controlled and lower than demand. Gm can not continue to manafacture a high quality car, and sell it at a low quality price. It has to hit it equilibrium and stay profitable. I believe downsizing, droping lines, models, etc is somewhat necessary for gm to once again regain its focus and control over its profit. Its a sad thing for sure, But i dont know about yall, but i would much rather see the price go up than the quality go down. I believe the most important thing that needs to happen, is to cut production and close dealerships. Increase the dealer protection distance between dealerships, dealerships that are too close, compete with each other and drive the price of these vehicles down. if the price stayed closer to msrp, than not only would the dealerships make more money, but gm could dip its hand a little deeper in that pocket and grab a little more money.

sorry for venting and this post was completely irrelevant, but i try to follow the auto industry close, as i have always had a dream to work in it.

nighthawk08

The current tow rating for a 2wd RCSB 5.3 w/3.73 is 8200. They must be getting the 6 speed if the max towing is going up to 9200. Obviously it's not standard, but probably available with the 5.3.

Neil 6.0

I sure as hell hope so.

Or, they might be offering 4.10 gears as an option again. But...the 2wd RCLB is somehow up 2,000 pounds to 10,000, (and the 4x4 stays @ 8900???). Hopefully those idiots aren't just going to put the 6-speed in 2wd long beds. Wouldn't surprise me though.

nighthawk08

GM had given some tow rating info for 09 that included the RCSB 5.3 w/6 speed auto because it was supposed to be offered late in 09...which obviously didn't happen....but I believe the rating was 9200.