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Old 01-09-2006 | 09:35 AM
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I was wanting to go with a 408 from a LQ9. It sounds as if its no problems with clearance or any other complications. Because of $$$ I was going to purchase the parts as $$$ will allow.

What would I need as far as parts(size and material)
What brands are better than others?
I was looking at cranks and noticed the Eagle cranks are fairly cheaper than the Lunati and others. Are they low quality or what.
Old 01-09-2006 | 10:15 AM
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For a "standard" 408, you need a crank with a 4 inch stroke. I'd look at Callies, Lunati over Eagle personally.

Pistons will be 4.030 (.030 overbore) and a host of options depending on what you intend to do with the motor -- coatings, dish for lowering compression, "turbo pistons", etc., etc. For that, I'd recommend talking to an engine builder or the piston manufacturer and getting their input. I like Diamond, but there are tons of quality piston makers around.

Rods will be 6.125" -- again I'd go callies, but there are tons of quality options out there. Choices will largely affect the cost -- H-beam, material, etc.

Rings -- again kind of a purpose choice -- running N20? turbo? etc. I went with diamond rings to make it all easy.

Those are the major components -- then you need a rebuild gasket kit and all the normal stuff. Since you'll have it all open, it might be time to consider a new oil pump (ported for volume), double roller timing chain, even a cam, heads, etc.

You can run around with stock LQ9 heads (especially if you are FI), but will get more benefit from the build up with a good set of heads as well.

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Originally Posted by TurboBerserker
For a "standard" 408, you need a crank with a 4 inch stroke. I'd look at Callies, Lunati over Eagle personally.

Pistons will be 4.030 (.030 overbore) and a host of options depending on what you intend to do with the motor -- coatings, dish for lowering compression, "turbo pistons", etc., etc. For that, I'd recommend talking to an engine builder or the piston manufacturer and getting their input. I like Diamond, but there are tons of quality piston makers around.

Rods will be 6.25" -- again I'd go callies, but there are tons of quality options out there. Choices will largely affect the cost -- H-beam, material, etc.

Rings -- again kind of a purpose choice -- running N20? turbo? etc. I went with diamond rings to make it all easy.

Those are the major components -- then you need a rebuild gasket kit and all the normal stuff. Since you'll have it all open, it might be time to consider a new oil pump (ported for volume), double roller timing chain, even a cam, heads, etc.

You can run around with stock LQ9 heads (especially if you are FI), but will get more benefit from the build up with a good set of heads as well.
I agree with it all. But I am running a Eagle Crank and Rods with diamond pistons. I know it was a cheaper rotating assembly but I took a chance and so far so good.
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IM running the eagle rods and crank with JE SRP pistons. eagle will be fine just check all the damn measurements and you will be fine.
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As far as cranks go. Go with your budget. Eagle will work, but like TurboBeserker I would go with a callies or lunati over eagle

Originally Posted by TurboBerserker
...Rods will be 6.25" -- again I'd go callies, but there are tons of quality options out there. Choices will largely affect the cost -- H-beam, material, etc...
Rods should be 6.125" I think you mean.
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Originally Posted by Fandango
Rods should be 6.125" I think you mean.

Doh! yep
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Doh! yep
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