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Old 09-05-2009, 06:35 AM
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yeah the lq9 was more expensive and most everyone i asked recommended i get the lq4. I'm probably going to sell my 220/220 cam and get something bigger for it later on. Til then i'm gonna be a cheapskate on an 87 octane tune lol. I'd like to get nitrous but I'd really like to have a procharger or TVS supercharger.
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Originally Posted by 1FastBrick
In 05 up the LQ4 got the LS2 style rod.
supposedly the Lq9's got them in late 03 early 04
No one seems to be 100% but I guess there was a mid year design change at some point in 03 production of the LQ9.

1500 is alot of money for one. the only thing that is really different between an LQ4 and an LQ9 is the piston. LQ9 has the same floating pin flat top piston from the LS2 motor and the LQ4's will have a dish piston. early ones will be pressed and 05 up will be Floating.
The way I heard it, the LQ9 came with the beefier rods ever since they started production in 02...until the LS2 came out they were referred to as "LQ9 rods" lol.
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Originally Posted by budhayes3
The way I heard it, the LQ9 came with the beefier rods ever since they started production in 02...until the LS2 came out they were referred to as "LQ9 rods" lol.
They way you heard it was right, I guess it makes everyone feel better if they can say they have the rods from an LS2 Vette motor than a lowly truck motor.
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Originally Posted by 1Bear
They way you heard it was right, I guess it makes everyone feel better if they can say they have the rods from an LS2 Vette motor than a lowly truck motor.
Yea, I guess so...personally, I'm proud of my 03 LQ9, with it's LQ9 rods (I'd be even more proud of it if it were together and running lol)
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Originally Posted by budhayes3
The way I heard it, the LQ9 came with the beefier rods ever since they started production in 02...until the LS2 came out they were referred to as "LQ9 rods" lol.
Nope! They Had a mid year change in 03
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Originally Posted by 1FastBrick
Nope! They Had a mid year change in 03
How can I identify if my 03 LQ9 has the stronger rods or not...and does this mean that GMCtrk's 02 LQ9 has LQ4 rods?
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Originally Posted by budhayes3
How can I identify if my 03 LQ9 has the stronger rods or not...and does this mean that GMCtrk's 02 LQ9 has LQ4 rods?
Look for a casting number on the side of the cap. If it is 123/145 you have a LQ9 rod, not to mention if it is bushed for a floating pin.

5.3L, 5.7L & 6.0L LQ4's would have a rod with casting number 143 BW on the side of the cap.

4.8L's would have had an 121 BW casting number.

Beings we are talking about your motor, these numbers should be correct. These were casting numbers used through '04.

If you were looking for rods by part number:
LS1/LQ4 = 12568734
LQ9 = 12567583
LS2 = 12577583
L92 = 12604629
LS3 = 12617570 also listed as a replacement for the LS2
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Originally Posted by 1Bear
Look for a casting number on the side of the cap. If it is 123/145 you have a LQ9 rod, not to mention if it is bushed for a floating pin.

5.3L, 5.7L & 6.0L LQ4's would have a rod with casting number 143 BW on the side of the cap.

4.8L's would have had an 121 BW casting number.

Beings we are talking about your motor, these numbers should be correct. These were casting numbers used through '04.

If you were looking for rods by part number:
LS1/LQ4 = 12568734
LQ9 = 12567583
LS2 = 12577583
L92 = 12604629
LS3 = 12617570 also listed as a replacement for the LS2
Thanks, the shortblock is together at my father's shop, now I have to get over there to check it out. There's no heads or oil pan on it, so I'll be able to get a good look at the rods and rod caps The block is out of an 03 so it could go either way.
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How about the pistons...do all LQ9's come with the teflon coated skirts, or was there a production change on that too?
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I would take the LQ9 over any of them. The LS1's are a great motor and lighter weight with the aluminum block. The downside is that they come out of cars that people buy just to beat on. If you buy a pre-01' LS1 make sure to change the rod bolts. I recomend the Katech bolts. The LQ4 to me is only worth it if you buy it cheap. I did this for my wife's Tahoe and used 5.3L heads to up the compression. The LQ9 comes with the better rods and the flat top pistons are a better thing. One of my friends has ran his LQ9 to over 20psi of boost and regularly runs to just shy of 20psi with it. The LQ9 will be just fine in an every day street vehicle at 10-12psi with fueling and spark right. The LQ9 holds up just fine to rpm also as many have turned them 7k without any problems. If performance is the idea and you can afford the LQ9 that's what I'd go with. They hold boost, nitrous, and high rpm just fine. For the Gen III motors they are the big cube best compression option and very hard to beat.


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