Cam questions for towing with 5.3 Z71 Tahoe. I SEARCHED! :D
#1
Cam questions for towing with 5.3 Z71 Tahoe. I SEARCHED! :D
So I came across these threads in my search and have a few questions:
https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...g+cam%2C+tahoe
https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...g+cam%2C+tahoe
https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...g+cam%2C+tahoe
it seems about a 206/212 seems to work well for towing. the Tahoe is completely stock, no mods whatsoever (2002 model year). i think it was a different forum i read that the 5.3 loves a 224 cam (TR224/TSP etc), so this is actually what i had in mind when i searched here, only to find people recommending the 206/212
to me, a TR224 isnt a big cam (thinking of my Camaro), but i have no idea how the tahoe would respond. its a DD and i use it to tow my Mastercraft boat and do long road trips from so cal--nor cal, as well as a lot of drives into the mountains (sometimes towing)
so is the 224 just way to big for my application? will the 206/212 suffice? who do you guys recommend getting it from and with what specs?
keep in mind, the Camaro isn't smog legal (in CA) and i definitely want to keep the Tahoe smog legal for sure! only other things i want to do is shorty headers (do they make them for tahoes?), intake, and a diff muffler (can anyone recommend a high flowing QUIET muffler?)
so along with the cam i'm assuming new springs/retainers, lifters (necessary?), and timing chain are also required?
TIA,
Chris
https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...g+cam%2C+tahoe
https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...g+cam%2C+tahoe
https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...g+cam%2C+tahoe
it seems about a 206/212 seems to work well for towing. the Tahoe is completely stock, no mods whatsoever (2002 model year). i think it was a different forum i read that the 5.3 loves a 224 cam (TR224/TSP etc), so this is actually what i had in mind when i searched here, only to find people recommending the 206/212
to me, a TR224 isnt a big cam (thinking of my Camaro), but i have no idea how the tahoe would respond. its a DD and i use it to tow my Mastercraft boat and do long road trips from so cal--nor cal, as well as a lot of drives into the mountains (sometimes towing)
so is the 224 just way to big for my application? will the 206/212 suffice? who do you guys recommend getting it from and with what specs?
keep in mind, the Camaro isn't smog legal (in CA) and i definitely want to keep the Tahoe smog legal for sure! only other things i want to do is shorty headers (do they make them for tahoes?), intake, and a diff muffler (can anyone recommend a high flowing QUIET muffler?)
so along with the cam i'm assuming new springs/retainers, lifters (necessary?), and timing chain are also required?
TIA,
Chris
#2
depending on what you are towing, weight wise, i would stay smaller, around 206/212 @ .050", and keep my stock stall. also springs and hardened PR's.
a 224 is fine in a 5.3, with the right stall ( 3K or so ) and gearing, but probably not the BEST for towing. i tow with my 3K stall, and .23x duration cam, but nothing heavy.
a good tune and the smaller cam should produce the results you need, low end off idle torque.
a 224 is fine in a 5.3, with the right stall ( 3K or so ) and gearing, but probably not the BEST for towing. i tow with my 3K stall, and .23x duration cam, but nothing heavy.
a good tune and the smaller cam should produce the results you need, low end off idle torque.
#4
oh, i'm typically towing a 21' boat, but sometimes have open trailers with cars to tow (in the 2-4k lbs range)
would a 208/212 on a 112* LSA work well? in what way would it differ from the 206/212?
these may be easy answers, but i'm really no cam guru at all, all i know is for my Camaro i will be getting a Vengeance VRX4
i do appreciate your guys help with this. also, i didn't see anything about oil pumps, so i'm assuming truck oil pumps are better then F-body's/stock vettes and don't need to be replaced/ported?
would a 208/212 on a 112* LSA work well? in what way would it differ from the 206/212?
these may be easy answers, but i'm really no cam guru at all, all i know is for my Camaro i will be getting a Vengeance VRX4
i do appreciate your guys help with this. also, i didn't see anything about oil pumps, so i'm assuming truck oil pumps are better then F-body's/stock vettes and don't need to be replaced/ported?
#5
I ran a 224 cam with 114+4* and hated it. Power didn't come on 'till 3500rpm. I am no expert by any means but this is what I have learned: the smaller cam will keep your power band lower ad the slpit will aid your stock exhaust.
#6
ok, thanks for the input!
so i just ran across this thread: https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...d.php?t=425898
so with the compcam XR259HR being on a 112 i will have a lot of low end torque, which is great for towing, but i think my biggest complaint is nearly everywhere i tow is in the mountains or curvy roads with a lot of hills, so i'm more so in the mid-upper rpm range...especially when pulling at 55+mph going up hill...the tahoe likes to downshift to i presume 2nd (way up in the RPMs) just to hold speed. wouldn't i want a cam with more mid-upper range if this is what i'm disliking the most is these high RPM downshifts?
so something like the XR265HR may be better? people say i can run stock stall and be fine with it..i'm going to talk to my tuner about that. or maybe the XR261HR15 (the 208/212 on a 115) would be better being smaller?
now i see the 265HR on a 115 LSA and that would give me a little more top end sacrificing some off idle power...i think this may be what i want?
damn, i dunno :help:
so i just ran across this thread: https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...d.php?t=425898
so with the compcam XR259HR being on a 112 i will have a lot of low end torque, which is great for towing, but i think my biggest complaint is nearly everywhere i tow is in the mountains or curvy roads with a lot of hills, so i'm more so in the mid-upper rpm range...especially when pulling at 55+mph going up hill...the tahoe likes to downshift to i presume 2nd (way up in the RPMs) just to hold speed. wouldn't i want a cam with more mid-upper range if this is what i'm disliking the most is these high RPM downshifts?
so something like the XR265HR may be better? people say i can run stock stall and be fine with it..i'm going to talk to my tuner about that. or maybe the XR261HR15 (the 208/212 on a 115) would be better being smaller?
now i see the 265HR on a 115 LSA and that would give me a little more top end sacrificing some off idle power...i think this may be what i want?
damn, i dunno :help:
#7
Of those, I'd go with the 265. That will give you enough mid without losing too much low. I have the 269 and 2nd gear at 60mph is the sweet spot. Thats with 3.42 gears. Obviously your going to want some 4.10's pulling a boat around.
You also shouldn't down shift as much after the swap because your going to have more power where you need it. It should do a better job at maintaining speed. Add a 2800 stall to keep you in your power band and you should be good to go.
You also shouldn't down shift as much after the swap because your going to have more power where you need it. It should do a better job at maintaining speed. Add a 2800 stall to keep you in your power band and you should be good to go.
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#10
The stall wouldn't be a Necessity.
I kinda like the idea of the 265HR with the higher lift on a 115. It'll will produce a little more HP and has a power range all the way up to 6700rpm. That way you can enjoy it more when your not towing.
I kinda like the idea of the 265HR with the higher lift on a 115. It'll will produce a little more HP and has a power range all the way up to 6700rpm. That way you can enjoy it more when your not towing.