Cam questions for towing with 5.3 Z71 Tahoe. I SEARCHED! :D
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wheels may be changed to a newer GM SUV wheel..probably in a 20" size since they are so cheap now. but i probably won't do that until next summer (if that..)
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i wouldnt go smaller than a 212/218, but definately get it on atleast a 114lsa, it bring get you to the powerband sooner than on a 115lsa...
i used to have that 212/218 114lsa in my ext.cab z71 and did not loose any lowend..
IMO... anything smaller than a 212/218 wont be worth it...
i used to have that 212/218 114lsa in my ext.cab z71 and did not loose any lowend..
IMO... anything smaller than a 212/218 wont be worth it...
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The Tahoe stays in the upper RPM band when towing up steep inclines because it lacks the low end torque to stay in gear, therefore asking the transmission for help by downshifting to 2nd or 3rd. If it's a daily driver that tows 2 tons a couple times a year, low durations, low lifts and tight lobe separation angles are what you're after. In a 5.3L that XR259 is just the ticket. The XR265 low lift version on a 114 (not the high lift version on a 115) would be the "biggest" cam I'd shove in there.
Remember, dyno tests have proven with a simple LS6 cam, the 5.3L loses torque down low and does not regain that torque it lost until after 2500-3000rpms. The LS6 cam is only a hair bigger than the XR259, but instead it's made for racing and high horsepower in the 5.7L. The XR259 is a mild version of that LS6 cam except with less lift, and as you found out, on a 112. Therefore what you are doing to the motor is basically taking it's powerful low end and only stretching it out, so the low end grunt does not die off until after 5500-6000 unlike the stock cam which wimpers out around 4500-5000. You can only stretch that flat torque curve out so far until you begin stealing from the low end to give to the high end. What's nice about the XR259 is that it will stretch out that RPM band AND increase the torque output while doing so.
Remember, dyno tests have proven with a simple LS6 cam, the 5.3L loses torque down low and does not regain that torque it lost until after 2500-3000rpms. The LS6 cam is only a hair bigger than the XR259, but instead it's made for racing and high horsepower in the 5.7L. The XR259 is a mild version of that LS6 cam except with less lift, and as you found out, on a 112. Therefore what you are doing to the motor is basically taking it's powerful low end and only stretching it out, so the low end grunt does not die off until after 5500-6000 unlike the stock cam which wimpers out around 4500-5000. You can only stretch that flat torque curve out so far until you begin stealing from the low end to give to the high end. What's nice about the XR259 is that it will stretch out that RPM band AND increase the torque output while doing so.
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The Tahoe stays in the upper RPM band when towing up steep inclines because it lacks the low end torque to stay in gear, therefore asking the transmission for help by downshifting to 2nd or 3rd. If it's a daily driver that tows 2 tons a couple times a year, low durations, low lifts and tight lobe separation angles are what you're after. In a 5.3L that XR259 is just the ticket. The XR265 low lift version on a 114 (not the high lift version on a 115) would be the "biggest" cam I'd shove in there.
Remember, dyno tests have proven with a simple LS6 cam, the 5.3L loses torque down low and does not regain that torque it lost until after 2500-3000rpms. The LS6 cam is only a hair bigger than the XR259, but instead it's made for racing and high horsepower in the 5.7L. The XR259 is a mild version of that LS6 cam except with less lift, and as you found out, on a 112. Therefore what you are doing to the motor is basically taking it's powerful low end and only stretching it out, so the low end grunt does not die off until after 5500-6000 unlike the stock cam which wimpers out around 4500-5000. You can only stretch that flat torque curve out so far until you begin stealing from the low end to give to the high end. What's nice about the XR259 is that it will stretch out that RPM band AND increase the torque output while doing so.
Remember, dyno tests have proven with a simple LS6 cam, the 5.3L loses torque down low and does not regain that torque it lost until after 2500-3000rpms. The LS6 cam is only a hair bigger than the XR259, but instead it's made for racing and high horsepower in the 5.7L. The XR259 is a mild version of that LS6 cam except with less lift, and as you found out, on a 112. Therefore what you are doing to the motor is basically taking it's powerful low end and only stretching it out, so the low end grunt does not die off until after 5500-6000 unlike the stock cam which wimpers out around 4500-5000. You can only stretch that flat torque curve out so far until you begin stealing from the low end to give to the high end. What's nice about the XR259 is that it will stretch out that RPM band AND increase the torque output while doing so.
so what you're saying is choosing a cam with the low end power will prevent it from doing the hard downshifts into the upper rpm's, which will then alleviate the added stress put on the transmission? i think thats what i'm understanding...which makes sense
would then the 265 on a 114 take away too much low end in that case? or is it one of those things that its maybe/maybe not?
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so what you're saying is choosing a cam with the low end power will prevent it from doing the hard downshifts into the upper rpm's, which will then alleviate the added stress put on the transmission? i think thats what i'm understanding...which makes sense
would then the 265 on a 114 take away too much low end in that case? or is it one of those things that its maybe/maybe not?
would then the 265 on a 114 take away too much low end in that case? or is it one of those things that its maybe/maybe not?
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Low end torque from a bigger cam will only come with good tuning. The cam for example in my truck not tuned in correctly would be a dog off the bottom. My dyno sheet show's my torque all the way down to 2700rpm. Anything really lower than that isn't related to wide open which is how dyno runs are performed. I would say go for a cam like the Trick Flow which is:
TFS-30602001
216/220 .560/.560 114LSA
TFS-30602001
216/220 .560/.560 114LSA
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would then the 265 on a 114 take away too much low end in that case? or is it one of those things that its maybe/maybe not?
Consider the following. I had a 218/224 on a 112 LSA custom ground for a 6.0L LQ4 awhile back that went into a lifted 1500HD Sierra. It hauls heavy loads on a daily basis and is towing large side entry horse trailers every few weeks to various parts of MN and WI for shows. The Sierra has 4.10's and an 80E transmission and can burn its tall tires in 4wd on cement in the garage. There's just that much torque on tap it can do that. Now remember what we're comparing here. A 6.0L to a 5.3L. There's an 11% difference in displacement. That should hint to you, SIK02SS, that what you're looking for is a cam proportionally sized for the 5.3L. Let math and sound reasoning be your guide when picking camshafts.