Originally Posted by BlackGMC

I love my tiny 220/224. I am really considering not installing the eps cam. Throttle reaponse is great, low end is nasty and it actually pulls to about 6200-6400

Originally Posted by 1slowz71

IDK BILLY ...i think something like a 224/228 would be perty good man or that 224/230 you've always wanted ...im running a 228/232 111lsa and IMH it not the greatest DD..to me it kinda feels like a 2 strock bike ... under light throttle the low end kinda sucks if I stuff it and the verter flashes then it koo but like I said light throttle low end sucks ..... Honestly I liked my 222/228 113lsa for DD more then my SS HT 228/232

Originally Posted by budhayes3

I actually have the EPS web page with that cam on it bookmarked in my favorites, as I'm really intrigued by it. Geoff's cams are ground by Comp (as are many manufacturers/vendors), but I haven't heard of a single failure with any of his bumpsticks. The more that I've been thinking about it over the past day or so, as much as I'm completely disgusted with Comp, I think that I would still consider one of their, or manufacturer who uses their grinds. I would think that the overlap of that cam would warrant at least an 11:1 SCR...which I guess is fine since I've been thinking more and more about shaving .040 off of my 317's. Haven't heard of anybody going .040 and having any intake alignment, or ptv (with larger cam) problems.

I've been pretty set on keeping the LSA somewhere between 112 to 114, but it seems like more and more folks are running 110, 111, and even 109 or tighter, and having good results. I'd think that a daily driven truck would benefit from the longer, flatter torque curve of a wider LSA (theoretically), buuuut, the trend seems to be longer duration, higher lifts, and tighter LSA's, and I'm sure that if I search around here there will by track times and dyno numbers to prove that these "bigger" cams with more overlap definitely work.

I'd also think that the fuel economy between the 220/224 grinds that I've been considering, and the EPS 224/230 would be noticeably different (not that I'm looking to build an "economy" truck by any means, but if I can gain like 2mpg and only sacrifice .2 to .4 tenths at the track, I might make that compromise.

Did you run that cam with the stock intake, and what kind of exhaust do/did you have? How about your static compression ratio, and torque converter stall speed?

Thanks for the reply btw brother



Yeah, Charlie's truck seemed to respond great to that cam, I forgot that he ran it with the truck manifold for a while. For me though Stew, my truck would have to become my part time toy, seeing more track duty then going to and from work and my daughter's day care duty. I also like to drive the couple hundred miles from my place in Jersey to my buddy's house in Charlton Mass, a few times a year when possible. It's about a 3 hr highway cruise. I really like those specs though for sure...hopefully some day

Eventually, I'd like to do the intake, exhaust, and torque converter upgrades to match with a cam along those lines, but I think that for now I'm going to top off with 224 or even 225 intake duration at the most. I'm basically on the fence between 220, 222, and 224 on the intake side, with lifts between .580 to .610ish.

Originally Posted by budhayes3

*EDIT* I wonder if my rcsb, launching in 4x4, with a 220/224 LQ9, would be able to crack into the 12's? Theoretically, if bluecajun can get 12's with a TR220-112 5.3, stock heads, awesome tuning, good converter, and excellent traction, I should be able to do it with a 6.0, good heads, and a similar cam. The 4x4 adds more weight, but also allows for a good hook. His truck is a freak though

Originally Posted by BlackGMC

I was running PAC 1218s with the stock 317s now i have patriot duals.

Originally Posted by TXsilverado

talk to charlie. this cam idles MILD. completely drivable. he has a baby seat in his back seat if it's any kind of indicator lol. with a good tune, and quiet exhaust you would really have to listen for the cam. ive been trying to talk charlie into a bigger cam for over a year now lol. he wont let it go.

with a good tune, and matching supporting mods you can run just about any cam you want IMO. i ran 226/226 on a stock converter with my LS1 for a while and noticed no ill down low effects....reminds me...ap2002 ran 12.41 with his stock head, stock intake LQ4 with a 226/226 112+4 cam. my truck with the LS1 ran 12.49 with the cam with truck manifold on the LS1 before the heads. after heads i went 12.19 @110 with the LS1. both of us only had 3200 converters.

Originally Posted by DV2000NJ

If I can run a 13.1 with my setup, you should be in the 12s no problem.

Originally Posted by TXsilverado

talk to charlie. this cam idles MILD. completely drivable. he has a baby seat in his back seat if it's any kind of indicator lol. with a good tune, and quiet exhaust you would really have to listen for the cam. ive been trying to talk charlie into a bigger cam for over a year now lol. he wont let it go.

with a good tune, and matching supporting mods you can run just about any cam you want IMO. i ran 226/226 on a stock converter with my LS1 for a while and noticed no ill down low effects....reminds me...ap2002 ran 12.41 with his stock head, stock intake LQ4 with a 226/226 112+4 cam. my truck with the LS1 ran 12.49 with the cam with truck manifold on the LS1 before the heads. after heads i went 12.19 @110 with the LS1. both of us only had 3200 converters.