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Old 05-06-2010, 02:50 PM
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Like Dezert already said, piston protrusion is irrelevant Spoo. You need to set up your pistons correctly with the rod height, etc.. After 10k miles, my 408 didn't drink oil (well, not before I galled the cam bearings anyway).

390?? I think you are over-thinking all this. Yeah, I said it. Rex, you stop laughing now
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For a 390ci you must be planning on using a 3.825” crank. Callies just happens to have one in their new C-Series line of cranks and should prove durable enough even being made out of 5140 steel and is pretty darn reasonably priced.
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Originally Posted by TurboBerserker
Like Dezert already said, piston protrusion is irrelevant Spoo. You need to set up your pistons correctly with the rod height, etc.. After 10k miles, my 408 didn't drink oil (well, not before I galled the cam bearings anyway).

390?? I think you are over-thinking all this. Yeah, I said it. Rex, you stop laughing now
I'm planning on going with 6.300" rods, custom pistons to move the pin height up and a 3.825" crank on a 4.030" bore.

(4.030 x 4.030 x 3.825 x 8) x .7854 = 390.32 ci

That should keep the pistons from protruding to far outta the sleeve and rocking around, the rod length should reduce side loading, pistons pin height will be below the oil rings as well.
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Originally Posted by 1Bear
For a 390ci you must be planning on using a 3.825” crank. Callies just happens to have one in their new C-Series line of cranks and should prove durable enough even being made out of 5140 steel and is pretty darn reasonably priced.
yup.
I was typing up my last response when you posted up with the crank I'm figuring on using. I figure I'd try something a bit different. I'm trying to build something under square rather than squared off. But still give it some stroke in the process without running into reliability issues.
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Originally Posted by Spoolin
Dang, I would of liked to of seen those pics. How far below the oil rings was that mark and what length rod were you using? Stock or 6.125 or ??
I think I found a compromise for what I'm gonna do because 408 + boost + long term reliability is clearly a pick two of three scenario.
Way below the rings, almost at the bottom of the piston. I knew I shouldn't have made up the 5/8" number.
6.125" rods.
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Originally Posted by Spoolin
Hope it helps me visualize how much 'piston wobble' some of these 408's endure and determine if I wanna go that route.
This should help you visualize the "wobble"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPvrDIcx7Ec
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Originally Posted by Dezert1500
This should help you visualize the "wobble"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPvrDIcx7Ec
lol watching that makes me wanna you matt
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Go .060 over for 396!
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reading this thread I was like hmm, a 396 might be badass lol


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