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#31
No need to get all riled up Im just stating the facts of what the difference in parts between the trucks does.
A converter will help you get out of the hole faster, it will rev a little quicker due to the lighter converter and your shift extension will be better. From a roll race the only thing the converter does is help on your shift extension and possibly rev quicker. Ive read where people say their converter helped them rev quicker but with all the converters and setups Ive had ive never really felt a SOTP difference. Where a converter really hurts is on the top end where it soaks up hp because its not allowing all the engine's power to get to the ground. just like big converter vehicles put down less than spectaqcular dyno numbers. This is also why most people lock their converter in 3rd to make it more efficient.
Remember there are people who are going to say **** just to mess with you, others will talk out of their *** and are keyboard warriors then there are the people with real world experience. If I was building a roll racer Id get the smallest triple disc I could get to have best shift extension possible and be able to lock it up at WOT so you dont waste so much power on the big end.
Dont take any of my posts as derogatory towards your truck as it runs great for no more than you have in it and I cant believe you havent blown the damn thing up with how much you race
A converter will help you get out of the hole faster, it will rev a little quicker due to the lighter converter and your shift extension will be better. From a roll race the only thing the converter does is help on your shift extension and possibly rev quicker. Ive read where people say their converter helped them rev quicker but with all the converters and setups Ive had ive never really felt a SOTP difference. Where a converter really hurts is on the top end where it soaks up hp because its not allowing all the engine's power to get to the ground. just like big converter vehicles put down less than spectaqcular dyno numbers. This is also why most people lock their converter in 3rd to make it more efficient.
Remember there are people who are going to say **** just to mess with you, others will talk out of their *** and are keyboard warriors then there are the people with real world experience. If I was building a roll racer Id get the smallest triple disc I could get to have best shift extension possible and be able to lock it up at WOT so you dont waste so much power on the big end.
Dont take any of my posts as derogatory towards your truck as it runs great for no more than you have in it and I cant believe you havent blown the damn thing up with how much you race
#32
watch the movie. its in OD not 1st gear. so yes tge "looser" converter has an advantage over the "tighter" converter. it doesnt matter, the guy inthe black truck spent more money than the OP so like i said, an what started it ALL. I would be Pissed if I barely ran away from a truck with taller gears, and a stock
stall. an FYI he's trapping the same speed as that Camaro SS that i beat by 2 trucks from a 25 roll. oh an im in a CC not a SC so i dont wanna hear **** about "weight" if they was so worried about "weight" then pull the tail gate, spare tire, jack, door panels and blah blah. its all in your set up and how well your truck performs. so my opinion and original post still stands. "id be pissed if i had that much money in my truck and i barely beat him" simple as that.
stall. an FYI he's trapping the same speed as that Camaro SS that i beat by 2 trucks from a 25 roll. oh an im in a CC not a SC so i dont wanna hear **** about "weight" if they was so worried about "weight" then pull the tail gate, spare tire, jack, door panels and blah blah. its all in your set up and how well your truck performs. so my opinion and original post still stands. "id be pissed if i had that much money in my truck and i barely beat him" simple as that.
M3's truck hung with him very good but that black truck is also set up to perform from a dig, put them on a sticky surface from a dig and watch that black truck put a couple lengths on him before M3 gets wound up off the stock converter. Its an apples and oranges comparison and all I simply stated was M3 isnt at as big of a disadvantage as a lot are making it out to be. Not that his truck is slow, ugly or anything of the sort. M3's truck rolls damn hard, the 220 duration cam is a proven performer, BlueCajin proved that years ago before any of ya'll even had your trucks.
Are you really going to argue your setup versus these guys? Youve got 60 more cubes, better flowing heads, more compression, and a bigger cam. What does comparing your trap speed to anyone elses have anything to do with this video? Trap speed is a product of weight, aerodynamics and hp, theyve got less hp but less weight and comparable aerodynamics but I really fail to see what it has to do with the price of tea in China.
And M3 if you did in fact ahve 2 other people in your truck that is just more of a testament to how well your truck runs, Ive meant no disrespect to you or your truck, Im simply here to keep it real for the internet racers and newbs.
#34
Watch his tach jump up to 4K right before they run. Have you seen how many street racing videos M3 puts up? Im pretty sure he knows what gear to start in on a slow roll race
Regardless even if he did start in oD when the truck downshifts into first it will be above the 3600 stall speed of the black truck since hes running 410s he'll be spinning a lot higher rpm given the same start speed.
Regardless even if he did start in oD when the truck downshifts into first it will be above the 3600 stall speed of the black truck since hes running 410s he'll be spinning a lot higher rpm given the same start speed.
#35
no one is bashing anyone... m3's truck is beast, we know that... fast truck. all we tryin to do is put things into perspective.... the blue truck only has tranny/converter over m3srt. which was roughly $2000... truck came with 3.73 gears as far as i know. could be wrong. anyways, good race nonetheless, like m3 said, it was a friendly race
#36
and 01slow is correct. m3 starts the race in 1st gear. you can clearly see it on the first video... rpms rev up, then honks, takes off. could be the tow/haul mode wheatley does... if im goin 30, have it on D, and hit the tow/haul... rpms shoot up because the trans shifts down to 1st by itself.
#37
yea i have the "performance Mode" when you hit the tow/haul button
i just mean that with the cam size diffrence .. it dosent make too much of a diffrence on the street ... theirfor no need for me to get a bigger cam ... it wouldent justify the swap .. but you also have to give it up to charlie and tootall .. they did all the work on BOTH trucks ...
i just mean that with the cam size diffrence .. it dosent make too much of a diffrence on the street ... theirfor no need for me to get a bigger cam ... it wouldent justify the swap .. but you also have to give it up to charlie and tootall .. they did all the work on BOTH trucks ...
#38
nah, its not worth spending money on another cam swap
when he had tune, headers, pulley on 17s, he used to run 14.5 14.6
I had tune, pulley, no cats on 17s and i ran 14.3s
he went back to wheatley for a retune and he dropped down to 14.0s 13.9s
when he had tune, headers, pulley on 17s, he used to run 14.5 14.6
I had tune, pulley, no cats on 17s and i ran 14.3s
he went back to wheatley for a retune and he dropped down to 14.0s 13.9s
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