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Old 02-23-2011, 10:37 AM
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Nice tank. So, a couple of questions: What size shot are you going to be running with the boost or are you getting rid of the blower? Are you going to run a high pressure fuel system or low pressure off of the dedicated?

BTW, run non projected tips with ANY nitrous shot.
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Originally Posted by krambo
Nice tank. So, a couple of questions: What size shot are you going to be running with the boost or are you getting rid of the blower? Are you going to run a high pressure fuel system or low pressure off of the dedicated?

BTW, run non projected tips with ANY nitrous shot.
glad you chimed in, your the man to talk to about this stuff....
ok im keeping the blower set at 8-9lbs right now, and want to work up to a 100 shot maybe bigger depending on how it reacts with the alky . i run e85 in my gas tank for everyday driving for the last year and i will be putting e98 in my stand alone.
as of the fuel im torn on what to do cause i got the stand alone system which im dedicating to the n20 system but was thinking about taping it also for extra fuel since im running out of pump (255 is beyond maxed out right now). i was thinking about maybe doing a dual intank set up with this stand alone but dont really want to convert to a return style system what do you think?
and i run ngk tr6 plugs will that be ok for this set up?

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Old 02-24-2011, 12:20 AM
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tr6 is usually found in less than 500-600 hp or so some say , ive done alot of searching on this recently

stock heads need a taper seat plug iirc here is a little useful info on plugs

LS1 Stock and AFR
Thread – 14mm
Reach - .708”
Socket – 5/8 hex
Seat - Taper
Stock Heat Range: 5
Gap: .060
Plug: NGK TR55 (stock number 3951); NGK TR55IX (stock number 7164); Autolite 764; Denso IT-16 (stock number 5325)

Nitrous (one step colder)
Heat Range: 6
Gap: .035 - .038
Plug: NGK TR6 (stock number 4177); NGK TR6IX (stock number 3689); Autolite 103; Denso IT-20 (stock number 5326)

Nitrous (two steps colder)
Heat Range: 7
Gap: Consult
Plug: NGK BR7EF (stock number 3346); NGK TR7IX (stock number 3690); Autolite AR94; Denso IT22 (stock number 5327)

Nitrous (two and a half steps colder)
Heat Range: 8
Gap: Consult
Plug: NGK R5724-8 (stock number 7317); NGK TR8IX (part number 3691); Denso IT-24 (stock number 5328)

Nitrous (three steps colder)
Heat Range: 9
Gap: Consult
Plug: NGK R5724-9 (stock number 7891); Autolite AR93; Denso IT-27

Nitrous (four steps colder)
Heat Range: 10
Gap: Consult
Plug: NGK R5724-10 (stock number 7993); Autolite AR92


LS1 w/ Edelbrock and Dart Heads
Thread – 14mm
Reach – 3/4”
Socket – 5/8 hex
Seat – Gasket

Stock – MFG Recommendations: approx under 9:1 compression
Heat Range: 4
Gap: Consult ignition mfg.
Plug: NGK FR4 (stock number 5155); NGK BKR5EIX (stock number 6341); Autolite 3926; Champion RC12YC (stock number 71); Denso IK16 (stock number 5303)

MFG Recommendations: approx 10.5:1 compression
Heat Range: 5
Gap: Consult ignition mfg.
Plug: NGK FR5 (stock number 7373); Autolite AR3924 (Racing Plug); Autolite 3924; Champion RC9YC (stock number 2075); Denso K20PR-U (stock number 3145); Denso IK20 (stock number 5304)

MFG Recommendations: approx 11:1 compression
Heat Range: 8
Gap: Consult ignition mfg.
Plug: NGK R5672A-8 (stock number 7173); Autolite AR3911; Champion C63YC (stock number 796); Denso IQ24 (stock number 5314)

MFG Recommendations: approx 12:1 compression
Heat Range: 9
Gap: Consult ignition mfg.
Plug: NGK R5672A-9 (stock number 7405); Autolite AR3910; Champion C61YC (stock number 785); Denso IQ27 (stock number 5315)

MFG Recommendations: approx 13:1 compression
Heat Range: 9 - 10
Gap: Consult ignition mfg.
Plug: NGK R5671A-9 (stock number 5238); Autolite AR3933; Champion C59CX (stock number 296); Denso IK27 (stock number 5312)

MFG Recommendations: approx 14:1 compression
Heat Range: 10
Gap: Consult ignition mfg.
Plug: NGK R5671A-10 (stock number 5820); Autolite AR3932; Champion C57CX (stock number 295); Denso IK-31 (stock number 5321)

**NOTE: Use chart for static compression and adjust heat range for nitrous use accordingly.
id go with the br7ef for your setup . some plugs have problems with etc(drive by wire) cars so sometimes they wont work , sometimes they do weird stuff like random misfires . u just need to find one that will work for you

i ordered some br7es for mine today (uses a gasket seat for trickflow heads) but from all the calls and hours i looked today they can use both gasket and taper . so i just hope my plugs work ok . i would have gone to the next step colder but i dont strictly race this and do alot of cold starts.

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Originally Posted by 2004SSS
tr6 is usually found in less than 500-600 hp or so some say , ive done alot of searching on this recently

stock heads need a taper seat plug iirc here is a little useful info on plugs



id go with the br7ef for your setup . some plugs have problems with etc(drive by wire) cars so sometimes they wont work , sometimes they do weird stuff like random misfires . u just need to find one that will work for you

i ordered some br7es for mine today (uses a gasket seat for trickflow heads) but from all the calls and hours i looked today they can use both gasket and taper . so i just hope my plugs work ok . i would have gone to the next step colder but i dont strictly race this and do alot of cold starts.

sorry for the hijack , im great at that lately.
so you think ill need a heat level 7 plug even with being on alcohol ?
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you dont have to but may be safer to run a bit cooler of a plug . i have been running tr6's until now @ 15 psi and about 1000 crank hp.

no problems but lets see what happens with the new plugs.

imo tr6 will be work just fine but it does have a projected tip . some run them on nitrous but most will say as kevin , non projected tips for nitrous.

also most of these plugs are dirt cheap , i paid 18 shipped on a set to give you an idea. they have the tr7ix ( iridium plug ) that are the like of tr7's but cost like 60 a set. supposed to last quite a bit longer though. ive never used iridiums , id rather have new plugs all the time (every oil change now ) and glad im a lucky one with a twin turbo that plugs are all relatively easy to change.
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where did you get the plugs ? link?
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lol @ links on pt.net

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Looking forward to getting some install pics for the store.


Originally Posted by 2004SSS
you dont have to but may be safer to run a bit cooler of a plug . i have been running tr6's until now @ 15 psi and about 1000 crank hp.
no problems but lets see what happens with the new plugs.
imo tr6 will be work just fine but it does have a projected tip . some run them on nitrous but most will say as kevin , non projected tips for nitrous.
also most of these plugs are dirt cheap , i paid 18 shipped on a set to give you an idea. they have the tr7ix ( iridium plug ) that are the like of tr7's but cost like 60 a set. supposed to last quite a bit longer though. ive never used iridiums , id rather have new plugs all the time (every oil change now ) and glad im a lucky one with a twin turbo that plugs are all relatively easy to change.
NON projected for nitrous is solid sound advice.
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pics are comming soon, waiting on a couple things...
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