AeroKing

Well, clay barring is to take wax and polishes off to the paint, so naturally it would be dull.

Once you claybar you have to buff and rewax. Its not a one step process.

slowprocess

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I'll stick with the zaino

neverquicknuff

zaino

bgray

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the only way to get a good shine is with an actual clay bar , a cut, polish, then sealer/wax.....anything by hand is a waste of time

bgray

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clay barring does not remove wax, and sealers...only a good cut will perform that.

A clay bar is simply used to remove inconsistencies and pollution in the paint

RibeiroBJJ

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X2 Best detailing products ever !!!

bgray

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iv heard great thignhs about that stuff..

bluecajun5.3

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it's overrated too i hear.

Crimson85

i used that ice wax before and it was ****.left mild streeking on my black paint.used it once and then threw it away.All of that turtle Liguid Ice stuff is ****.I buy Mother's Brand only products and have no problems.

jkade72

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If you want to see what 8 hours of buffing will do to 20 year old paint check out this thread, that is what the truck looked like when I bought it and then after I buffed it. The second like is what a drop and 20"s will do to a truck, and the dick head I bought it from had the nerve to tell me I ruined it.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=249046

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=250414

And for the clay bar ice you can see why it pissed me off since I had just spent so much time wheeling the truck out a week or 2 ago. I rebuffed the whole truck today and it looks better now than it did. I knew I needed to go back and rebuff it but I had not planned on doing it so soon. I have used the ice wax before and it works great for detailing but no just as good a job as a paste wax will do.