Well than why don't you and the local stereo shops just purchase from the internet for the price we pay, than nobody would have to complain about the local audio stores being so high on the price and we could just buy it from you. Personally I'd rather buy locally so I don't have to wait for it. But I also don't wanna pay sometimes double the price to get it local when I can get the exact same thing for less online. My local race shop for example will match the internet price on most things and therefore I choose to buy from them. If they didn't than I'd go somewhere else.

 

They are not, they just don't have any overhead at all. I provide a service to my customers. I can teach them about car audio, and reasons to do one thing and not another. Explain why dynamat has value, tell them how to use it (it's not necessary to cover evey square inch. If you need to save money, don't put as much down. More is better, but by doubling the dynamat you don't necessarily double the sound quality improvement.) My entire point of my comments were, maybe you guys shouldn't look at shops trying to get rich off you guys, but rather providing a service.

So many people purchase things online and get fucked. Either by shitty product or just not purchasing the right product for their application. I don't feel like my shop is ripping anyone off. I can compete with anyone in the area, the only thing i can't compete with is the internet. It's because they are obtaining product illegally and selling it to you guys.

It's your right, buy where you want. I am just saying you get more for your money at my shop than just a stereo.

 

I pay the same price as the people selling on the internet.

So you are saying I should buy product A for 100.00 and sell it to you for 100.00?

How much margin is fair for you guys? I have to purchase product in tens of thousands of dollars at a time to get my price on it, you expect me to make how much? What's fair for you 1%? 0? Do you work for free?

 

Ok, well you seem to keep backpedaling on this, because you say they get it illegally. So if they were getting it illegally I would imagine the price shouldn't be the same. All I was getting at was maybe a different supplier with a better deal should be considered and than you could pay a better dealer price for it to compete with the internet sales. Or at least close to the same. For instance, one of the sponsors was having a sell on exhaust systems and I went to someone locally who carried the same system and couldn't beat the price but got within $25 dollars so I purchased from them. That's my point.

 

I wish you were closer by bro, remember last year?, put my trust, and $$$, and truck in the care of VIP in Carlsbad CA, I got screwed seven ways from Sunday. Anyway, I'm very sure you would have taken much better care of me.
Now, would you send me a PM on cost plus 20% on a bulkpack of Dynamat extreme, I'll buy products all day long at that price, which IMO is fair, especially with your dedication to customer service, as it is

 

i did my pillars, and doors and i noticed a hell of a diffrence, next is the top half of the truck then ill move to the back seat wall thing, then the floor

 

yall quit ur damm bitchin already damm, stay on topic, pm each other....i wanna post post the pics but i wont be able to if this thing is locked down

 

It all depends on the supplier. Basically here is how it works.

There are basically two types of sellers online:

1. Authorized dealers making unauthorized internet sales. For instance, I manage my shop, but want to make a few bucks on the side. I put a ton of product on the internet under a different name, and sell it. Since it's just extra money for me, I don't need to make much profit. I may only make 100 bucks a day, not near enough for a business, but a good chunk of tax free money. This type of "seller" is typically the cheapest, since they have direct accounts and absolutely no overhead. This is breach of contract on the dealer's part and they can be cut off from the line. The manufacturer can (and have) sue the dealer for "lost profit due to being forced to remove that line from the dealer"

2. Unauthorized dealers purchasing products through distrobution. Distributors charge a little more than the manufacturer, but about 50% of them are crooked and will sell to internet suppliers (breech of contract on their part) These suppliers are typically the more expensive internet companies. The good thing about these guys (for me) is that reputable manufacturers are going after these guys sueing them for trademark infringements since they are not allowed to use their logos etc...

I purchase products from Rockford, JL Audio, Diamond Audio, Clarion, Eclipse, Memphis, Focal, and Hooker Audio (wire and cable). I am direct with all those guys, I use distributors for little stuff like video systems and some satellite radio equipment. I pay the same price as any other shop (except for best buy and the big box stores with Rockford, which we are dropping). You get benefits from selling more product with VIR (volume incentive rebates) and you get a DFI (discount from invoice) depending on how much product you buy at once.

If people come in with an ebay add, once you add in shipping which they rape you on, I can be somewhat competitive, but I wont match it (in most cases) because I can't run a business that way, i'll go under. I get customers all the time that I gain from the internet, all it takes is getting burned to move you over. I'm not saying it's dumb to be frugal, but I'm just asking that people figure in the value of customer service and knowledge.

Everyone here likes to listen to their stuff before they purchase it right? You don't buy shoes without trying them on. You do that with my sound board or a buddies car. It's not cool to come in and waste my time "acting" like you're gonna buy, and then go buy it online, just remember, a good small shop will take care of you if you need it. There are tons of times I have warrantied out of warranty product for customers, or given them a nicer radio for the same price b/c I didn't have the one they had in stock (loosing money there) mainly cause they will come back. I pull people's cars around and fix their shitty connections for free when they try and install stuff themselves and fail. Don't you think that''s worth something?

I guess I should stop thread jacking now...

 

I remember, I think I gave you some advice on it.

 

The bad thing about dynamat is that you do one area and it seems like the other areas got louder. You chase things around until you get it all done.