Agreed 1000%.

I have seen them skate around alot of ?'s in regards to production, only to get ''we design them, build'' If thats the case, the pictures you can find and that I even posted in there threads are identical to the LPP, ect china brand deal, so I don't buy it. Not to mention any comments on these pictures by them. I have yet to see a AMERICAN made 321 polished header for that price. If they are china headers advertise them as such, not as made in USA. Given alot of people do ''Budget" things so the price does appeal more so to them. But quality is much much much more hit or miss.

 

CalSpeed headers suck if you ask me,here's why https://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...er-mod-498746/

 

Unreal, they have not responded?? imagine that.

 

Should just post a link to this thread in ever thread about them. Just flood it so if someone searches them this is all they find

 

honestly it's not really worth it, atleast for me. I was going to opt in on the 1 7/8 headers possibly, but since they are posed to be USA made, seem to not be, I will go else where. If they can not post back, then it proves ALOT of our points.

 

LPP headers are 10000x better than the Cal Speed headers. My friend had LPP headers on his 4x4 with no fitment issues as did I. He then tried to put a set of calspeeds on and they rammed right into the front driveshaft and yoke on the same truck.

I used to think they were identical too from looking at the pictures but after seeing the fitment of the calspeeds they did a shitty job copying the LPP design.

 

Hopefully, I'll get a response, but I'm not banking on it. It's bad enough that they dodge damn near every question that deals with their product, but even worse, I didn't know that their fitment was worse than LPP's.

 

Yes especially on a 4x4 the collector has to be crushed nearly in half to clear the drive shaft. In the end we decided it was not worth it to damage a new set of headers that much so he decided to get rid of them and wait for LPP to be back in stock. A little dent or ding would be okay but it needed a significant amount of damage.

I would never put these on a 4x4.

 

Perfect example that these aren't made in the U.S. Either someone fcked up the measurments that bad, or the Chinese can't fab up anything. That's sad.

 

The LPPs cleared on my old Z just fine too but I think its a case by case basis. Ive seen both calspeed and LPP have the same fitment problems in teh same areas.