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Old 08-29-2012, 04:47 PM
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I think if we can put more turbo direct injection diesels in these small cars there would be no problem getting 40mpg+.

But I honestly think its not the cars that are the problem, its everyone driving them. All the stop and go traffic... If they want better gas mileage out of our vehicles, SOLVE THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS!
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As would state taxes to pay for roads, and the list continues.
Exactly!! It's scary

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Gas prices would go down if there was less gas used. Supply follows demand in this market. Thats part of why prices plummeted during the later months of 2008...people just stopped driving.
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I've read something to the effect that flex fuel vehicles get them extra credit for cafe.
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Originally Posted by smokeshow
Gas prices would go down if there was less gas used. Supply follows demand in this market. Thats part of why prices plummeted during the later months of 2008...people just stopped driving.
Not long term though. Production will be reduced thus increasing the priceagain. Nevermind the fact that if we kept using less gas the tax on gas will be jumped up. Hell, most DOTs are suffering a revenue shortfall due to less gas being sold.
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I'd be okay with spending more on tax if it went to the right ******* place. A statistic leaked out for the county I live in out here, and they used 3% of their funding for road improvement. The rest of it got funneled off elsewhere.
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That's the same here with public utilities. The power company in Austin is a city utility, millions of its yearly revenue are siphoned off for the city counsel's budget. Then they're jacking up the rates because the power company needs more money for infrastructure. Well no ****, when millions in revenue is being stolen to cover the liberal spending practices the city government uses

So glad I don't live on the Austin Energy grid.
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as others have stated, and correct me if im wrong, but my understanding is that the manufacturers can get away with selling a truck that gets 14-20 mpg by selling a lot of 40+ mpg cars
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We are about as good as pure gasoline cars are going to get, given the stringent EPA restrictions...the solution is leaning towards hybrid diesel electric. Basically use a diesel generator to power an electric motor, but furthermore one that you can plug up, like the volt. Problem with that is it still takes X amount of energy to go Y distance, just now you are getting your energy from the power company (which 90% comes from burning fossil fuels...) instead of the oil company.

Higher fuel standards arent the solution, they just change the focus of the problem.
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There's still efficiency to be coaxed out of fossil fuels... It does take X amount of energy to go Y distance, but X has a lot of sub-areas that can be broken down and optimized. I'm actually working with Boeing on a project right now for the Apache helicopter to do just that. They don't run on pump gas, but the ideas transfer over to automotive design just the same.


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