The neverending OVERHEATING issue...please help!
10-10-2005, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 203Cree
Yes, more than likely.
The carquest by me said they have both pieces of hose for the lower (the small piece on one side of the oil cooler to the water pump, then the longer one with the turn in it that connects to radiator. But he said that it doesnt have a spring in it...? Now im really lost...
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10-10-2005, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ChillOutWayne
Ok, now all i gotta do is find a parts/Ford dealer that has any idea what they are talking about.
The carquest by me said they have both pieces of hose for the lower (the small piece on one side of the oil cooler to the water pump, then the longer one with the turn in it that connects to radiator. But he said that it doesnt have a spring in it...? Now im really lost...
Dan
The carquest by me said they have both pieces of hose for the lower (the small piece on one side of the oil cooler to the water pump, then the longer one with the turn in it that connects to radiator. But he said that it doesnt have a spring in it...? Now im really lost...
Dan
10-10-2005, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 203Cree
Don't trust everything they tell you. Did you check the hose to see if it's for SURE bad?
Could it possibly be clutch fan?
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10-10-2005, 02:23 PM
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I had a very similar overheating problem on a 4-cylinder Dodge car a few years ago. The t-stat failed and the driver didn't know any better and overheated the engine. I replaced the t-stat and the hoses, but it would still occasionally get hot while on the drive to/from work (~15 miles all highway). I threw on a new water pump...same thing. It would run fine on short trips and in city traffic, but would sometimes get hot on the highway. I flushed the system several times, no help. I thought it might have a cracked block/head or blown head gasket, but the plugs were clean, no smoke out the tailpipe and no water in the oil. Finally out of frustration I put in a brand new radiator and the son of a bitch never got hot again. The only thing I could figure was that the old radiator was mostly plugged up but could still pass enough water through at lower RPM's, but at higher RPM's it couldn't flow enough.
My money is on the radiator.
My money is on the radiator.
10-10-2005, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Neil 6.0
I had a very similar overheating problem on a 4-cylinder Dodge car a few years ago. The t-stat failed and the driver didn't know any better and overheated the engine. I replaced the t-stat and the hoses, but it would still occasionally get hot while on the drive to/from work (~15 miles all highway). I threw on a new water pump...same thing. It would run fine on short trips and in city traffic, but would sometimes get hot on the highway. I flushed the system several times, no help. I thought it might have a cracked block/head or blown head gasket, but the plugs were clean, no smoke out the tailpipe and no water in the oil. Finally out of frustration I put in a brand new radiator and the son of a bitch never got hot again. The only thing I could figure was that the old radiator was mostly plugged up but could still pass enough water through at lower RPM's, but at higher RPM's it couldn't flow enough.
My money is on the radiator.
My money is on the radiator.
Dan
10-10-2005, 08:15 PM
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Ok so i have the lower hose pulled with the adapter for the oil cooler, im gonna replace the whole setup cuz the spring that was in there is completely gone, and the hose does not feel too sturdy. Lets all just hope thats the problem, becuase im becoming nautious with this whole situation.
I also have the radiator pulled and im gonna back flush it here in a few minutes, i hope some garbage comes out.
anyway ill keep u guys posted, any other ideas, please let me know.
Thanks
Dan
I also have the radiator pulled and im gonna back flush it here in a few minutes, i hope some garbage comes out.
anyway ill keep u guys posted, any other ideas, please let me know.
Thanks
Dan
10-11-2005, 02:26 PM
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Ok so i just got off the phone with Ford, they have a new radiator hose WITH a spring waiting for me, im gonna give that a try tonight and we will see. Ill post back up later, wish the van luck 
Dan
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10-12-2005, 12:08 AM
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Update
UPDATE:
Ok i just came in from another 4 hours on the damn van. I replaced the lower hose that goes from radiator to oil cooler adapter (which had a spring in it that i got from Ford), i put the radiator back in it after flushing the hell out of it every which way, and i replaced the coolant i had removed.
I began by driving for about 15 minutes on the street in 35-45mph zone. Everything is all good, and it even looks like its running a tad under normal. Note:i want to make note that the needle itself is constantly doing something, it will be still for several seconds then do a little jump in either direction, its very odd. Ok so i made my way to the interstate, hopped on and went roughly 3-5 miles until the needle started to climb ever so slightly. Im talking going from in the middle of the "R" (of NORMAL) to the middle of "M" over the next few miles, but gradually. So then it seems to top out at about the end of "M" at the end of maybe 10-12 miles. Now i decide im going to have it cool down some and get off the highway. Now things get interesting.
I decide to turn the heat on to help cool it some, and i click on the vent setting for heat, and the gauge jumps UP almost an entire letter, to about the middle of "A". I turn it off, turn it on, and so forth to verify what im seeing. Yup, the temp gauge is moving when the vents are turned on, and when the windows go up ect...basicall with the volt needle, but the weird thing is, is the oil press gauge is moving slightly too. Now, the confusion level i was at before has just multiplied. Over the next several miles of being back at normal speeds, the temp never dropped significantly, and actually seemed to level at about the middle of "M", which is still a hair over half, and it never ran that warm before. It would occasionally jump down a notch or up, and really with no pattern.
So here arrives the question, is it really running hot? Do i have a seperate problem here that seems to only surface on the highway? And it might just be me, but i was at a light after getting of the highway, and the needle was at the middle of the "M", i turned on the vents to high for maybe a minute, turned them off and the gauge only dropped back down to the "A", how in the world did it increase temperature in one minute WITH the heat on full blast. Also, if i just let the van run in the driveway, it never seems to get that hot, and now after getting home and letting it sit and run for a bit, the temp never dropped back below "M", this is odd as well, considering if i had a flow issue, it should go away at idle, thus allowing the van to cool down. Guys, im thinking something else is going on here, somehting not as simple as a coolant hose or a radiator. Please, let me know if you have any insight/questions. I am delirious and completely drained from this project, so i may have left out some vital info in this, so if theres any info needed to help. Let me know. Im off all day tomorrow, so ill check here often.
Thanks again for reading and your time, its more than appreciated.
Dan
Ok i just came in from another 4 hours on the damn van. I replaced the lower hose that goes from radiator to oil cooler adapter (which had a spring in it that i got from Ford), i put the radiator back in it after flushing the hell out of it every which way, and i replaced the coolant i had removed.
I began by driving for about 15 minutes on the street in 35-45mph zone. Everything is all good, and it even looks like its running a tad under normal. Note:i want to make note that the needle itself is constantly doing something, it will be still for several seconds then do a little jump in either direction, its very odd. Ok so i made my way to the interstate, hopped on and went roughly 3-5 miles until the needle started to climb ever so slightly. Im talking going from in the middle of the "R" (of NORMAL) to the middle of "M" over the next few miles, but gradually. So then it seems to top out at about the end of "M" at the end of maybe 10-12 miles. Now i decide im going to have it cool down some and get off the highway. Now things get interesting.
I decide to turn the heat on to help cool it some, and i click on the vent setting for heat, and the gauge jumps UP almost an entire letter, to about the middle of "A". I turn it off, turn it on, and so forth to verify what im seeing. Yup, the temp gauge is moving when the vents are turned on, and when the windows go up ect...basicall with the volt needle, but the weird thing is, is the oil press gauge is moving slightly too. Now, the confusion level i was at before has just multiplied. Over the next several miles of being back at normal speeds, the temp never dropped significantly, and actually seemed to level at about the middle of "M", which is still a hair over half, and it never ran that warm before. It would occasionally jump down a notch or up, and really with no pattern.
So here arrives the question, is it really running hot? Do i have a seperate problem here that seems to only surface on the highway? And it might just be me, but i was at a light after getting of the highway, and the needle was at the middle of the "M", i turned on the vents to high for maybe a minute, turned them off and the gauge only dropped back down to the "A", how in the world did it increase temperature in one minute WITH the heat on full blast. Also, if i just let the van run in the driveway, it never seems to get that hot, and now after getting home and letting it sit and run for a bit, the temp never dropped back below "M", this is odd as well, considering if i had a flow issue, it should go away at idle, thus allowing the van to cool down. Guys, im thinking something else is going on here, somehting not as simple as a coolant hose or a radiator. Please, let me know if you have any insight/questions. I am delirious and completely drained from this project, so i may have left out some vital info in this, so if theres any info needed to help. Let me know. Im off all day tomorrow, so ill check here often.
Thanks again for reading and your time, its more than appreciated.
Dan
