The Dual Flash PCM
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But for the other part of the question of how it would be licensed with HPT, I don't know. I have put the question in with EFILive to see how it is handled with them, but for me personal, it doesn't matter because I have unlimited LS1 PCM licensing, with both the LS1A and LS1B streams
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I already have that capibility...well,almost,I have 3 tune files to swicth between.
Its called a Superchips x3.
I know some hear Superchips and cringe thinking its all generic crap tunes but they are not.They are 100% custom and as long as the tuner knows what he is doing,it is no different than tunes using HP tuners,Efi Live,etc,etc.
Not to mention I paid less than most are paying for mail order tunes....and i have the ability to change tunes without sending ecm's out.Also has the ability to datalog(although ive heard from my tuner the dataloging isnt the best)read and clear trouble codes,and ALOT more!!
So why spend all that money when there is somthing already out there that does the same things,does it without pulling the ecm apart,and does it cheaper?
Also,lets say one just HATES Superchips tuning programs....You can tune with HP Tuners,Efi Live,etc,etc and then burn the tune to your x3 hand held and then make your other custom tunes and repeat.Not to mention,since a hand held is self contained,there is only a TINY chance the end user could mess it up.Most people shouldnt be working on cars and for most,going into the ecm,even though it is super simple,is probably out of there realm.
Its called a Superchips x3.
I know some hear Superchips and cringe thinking its all generic crap tunes but they are not.They are 100% custom and as long as the tuner knows what he is doing,it is no different than tunes using HP tuners,Efi Live,etc,etc.
Not to mention I paid less than most are paying for mail order tunes....and i have the ability to change tunes without sending ecm's out.Also has the ability to datalog(although ive heard from my tuner the dataloging isnt the best)read and clear trouble codes,and ALOT more!!
So why spend all that money when there is somthing already out there that does the same things,does it without pulling the ecm apart,and does it cheaper?
Also,lets say one just HATES Superchips tuning programs....You can tune with HP Tuners,Efi Live,etc,etc and then burn the tune to your x3 hand held and then make your other custom tunes and repeat.Not to mention,since a hand held is self contained,there is only a TINY chance the end user could mess it up.Most people shouldnt be working on cars and for most,going into the ecm,even though it is super simple,is probably out of there realm.
FWIW, EFILive V2 and soon to be released Autocal units will do the same thing as X3, only ALOT better with much more then 3 tunes. This is just something cool I came across that would give the average Joe a way to have 2 COMPLETE and separate tunes on 1 PCM available with just turning the vehicle off, flipping a switch and firing it back up
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I'm not bashing SCT X3, but aren't they around $380-$400, and don't you still need thier program (or have a tuner with it) or EFILIVE/HPT to put programs on them? Not really cheaper I would say...
FWIW, EFILive V2 and soon to be released Autocal units will do the same thing as X3, only ALOT better with much more then 3 tunes. This is just something cool I came across that would give the average Joe a way to have 2 COMPLETE and separate tunes on 1 PCM available with just turning the vehicle off, flipping a switch and firing it back up
FWIW, EFILive V2 and soon to be released Autocal units will do the same thing as X3, only ALOT better with much more then 3 tunes. This is just something cool I came across that would give the average Joe a way to have 2 COMPLETE and separate tunes on 1 PCM available with just turning the vehicle off, flipping a switch and firing it back up
#36
This is really cool. I love the idea
I assume you would need to license the chips separately? Or not because they would share the same VIN?
I assume you would need to license the chips separately? Or not because they would share the same VIN?
Last edited by 04SilveradoMykk; 12-10-2009 at 10:14 AM.
#37
We discussed this issue with Omnituner (and Moates) a month or two ago.
It requires a little planning ahead and involves you letting them know what the serial number is in your PCM. Then they will pre-flash the two switchable flash banks with a binary image that has the same serial number as your PCM before shipping it to you.
Then you can tune them both with the same FlashScan license that you used on your PCM.
Regards
Paul
It requires a little planning ahead and involves you letting them know what the serial number is in your PCM. Then they will pre-flash the two switchable flash banks with a binary image that has the same serial number as your PCM before shipping it to you.
Then you can tune them both with the same FlashScan license that you used on your PCM.
Regards
Paul
So, if you already have a PCM licensed that you want to install one of these chip set on, you can let Moates know what your PCM's serial number is and they will Flash a binary Image with that SN to both chips and you will not have to re-license.
If you just bought a PCM with one of these already installed, then both chips will have the random SN flashed to them requiring only one licenses to be used to tune it, just like if it was a second PCM you had bought for tuning.
I imagine it would work the same way with HPT, but you should check to be sure.
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Ok, I asked the licensing question to the EFILive guys and this is the response I got.
So, if you already have a PCM licensed that you want to install one of these chip set on, you can let Moates know what your PCM's serial number is and they will Flash a binary Image with that SN to both chips and you will not have to re-license.
If you just bought a PCM with one of these already installed, then both chips will have the random SN flashed to them requiring only one licenses to be used to tune it, just like if it was a second PCM you had bought for tuning.
I imagine it would work the same way with HPT, but you should check to be sure.
So, if you already have a PCM licensed that you want to install one of these chip set on, you can let Moates know what your PCM's serial number is and they will Flash a binary Image with that SN to both chips and you will not have to re-license.
If you just bought a PCM with one of these already installed, then both chips will have the random SN flashed to them requiring only one licenses to be used to tune it, just like if it was a second PCM you had bought for tuning.
I imagine it would work the same way with HPT, but you should check to be sure.
For the hptuners users around here I am going to shoot Bill an email over at hptuners and ask him about the licensing for this setup.