EFILive and Moates RoadRunner
03-23-2008, 01:10 PM
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Right, but thats still the feedback im looking for. Doesnt matter to me which one you have. I have to assume they are similar in how they work. Just wondering if the cost of one is worth it. I assume you can just leave it in there as a replacement PCM right? Is not any less durabable than the OEM computer is it?
You dont have one Kyle?
You dont have one Kyle?
. I do have HPT for the oddballs that EFILive doesn't support, but I didn't feel like dropping 4 credits ($200) just to try there RTT when it's running as good as it does now.How they work is vastly different. RR is like mentioned a new pcm that updates in real time with permanent changes to any and all tables in the pcm, where HPT's uses extra memory in the pcm and there scanner to make real time changes to a few of the more important tuning tables for them pcm. But when your done RTT with it, you then have to flash those changes to the PCM to make them permanent.
03-23-2008, 03:27 PM
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The great thing about our system is your stock pcm stays put and because of this setup takes about 5 minutes including read & write times to get started and you don't need multiple pcm's for different vehicles such as with the moates system.
03-23-2008, 03:55 PM
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Like I said, 2 credits to license the PCM and 2 more credits for the 2 bar COS(got one of them spiny things in my exhaust)=4 right? At $49 each right? Just cuz the unit comes with it, doesn't mean it's free. I use it, I still have to pay to replace it.
03-23-2008, 08:07 PM
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Yes, if he purchased hptuners he would need to license his vehicle but then most people who purchase want to tune their vehicle which requires this *shrug*
I would've assumed if you already have hptuners you would've already licensed your vehicle meaning it would only run you 1 or 2 credits to have real time tuning.
I would've assumed if you already have hptuners you would've already licensed your vehicle meaning it would only run you 1 or 2 credits to have real time tuning.
03-23-2008, 10:00 PM
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FWIW, when MAF tuning, I don't add any fuel to begin with. Same with VE really. Watch your wideband and progressively work your way into load. If it starts to lean out at a certain point, stop the truck, bump it up a bit then go out again.