Excessive water/steam coming from exhaust pipe truck runs crappy. What could it b?
#11
Custm2500's Rude Friend
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Chris, you may have an issue with the fuel since the truck was sitting so long.
This may also have caused build up of deposits on the injectors them self.
When the Gas sits for long periods of time the chemicals separate and some of the chemicals evaporate. Fuel can also absorb water over time as well. When fuel is left in the fuel injection system it can Gum up the injectors and not allow them to open and close properly. The deposits can also cause a restriction.
Check out this article on Fuel It gives a basic over view Does Gas Go Bad?
FWIW Coolant or Water can not be compressed in the combustion chamber. Usually in tiny amounts it will actually knock off the carbon build up on the piston and head surface including this also includes the spark plug.
In larger amounts it can cause a missfires and in a large enough dose it will "hydraulic a cylinder" and can damage the piston and rod.
As far as a blown head gasket goes. It does not always introduce water into the oil or vise versa. In some cases and what is more common on some engine designs is that the seal will break between the cooling system and the combustion chamber. A small amount of coolant can enter the engine and cause it to run poorly as well as the combustion will leak into the cooling system causing it to over pressurize and in some cases damage to the cooling system parts. as the water seeps out and the combustion seeps in the car will start to run hotter until it reaches a point were it over heats....
Personally I think your issue might be fuel related... But I would still recommend a compression check and if needed pressure check the cooling system.
This may also have caused build up of deposits on the injectors them self.
When the Gas sits for long periods of time the chemicals separate and some of the chemicals evaporate. Fuel can also absorb water over time as well. When fuel is left in the fuel injection system it can Gum up the injectors and not allow them to open and close properly. The deposits can also cause a restriction.
Check out this article on Fuel It gives a basic over view Does Gas Go Bad?
FWIW Coolant or Water can not be compressed in the combustion chamber. Usually in tiny amounts it will actually knock off the carbon build up on the piston and head surface including this also includes the spark plug.
In larger amounts it can cause a missfires and in a large enough dose it will "hydraulic a cylinder" and can damage the piston and rod.
As far as a blown head gasket goes. It does not always introduce water into the oil or vise versa. In some cases and what is more common on some engine designs is that the seal will break between the cooling system and the combustion chamber. A small amount of coolant can enter the engine and cause it to run poorly as well as the combustion will leak into the cooling system causing it to over pressurize and in some cases damage to the cooling system parts. as the water seeps out and the combustion seeps in the car will start to run hotter until it reaches a point were it over heats....
Personally I think your issue might be fuel related... But I would still recommend a compression check and if needed pressure check the cooling system.
#12
Here are some pictures. I just picked up the compression tester so I am going to the the compression test now.
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#13
Here are a few photos and a video of the exhaust. You can't tell from the video because of the distortion but, it sounds like there is something going on in the valves I am guessing 4, 6, or 8. I am gonna grab a rotisserie chicken and get on the compression testing once the engine cools down a little bit (it's at 210) so I don't burn the **** out of my hands trying to get to #8.
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Exhaustenginevideo006.mp4 video by Chris092183 - Photobucket
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#14
Custm2500's Rude Friend
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I don't like the tick, But the water/ condensation does look normal. Especially since your truck has been sitting. Back it down the drive way and let the rear wheels sit at the base in the gutter. let the truck warm up and gave it a few whacks of the throttle.
Mine is on a flat drive way and I start it every few weeks. It look's identical to what you have. The longest I have gone is around a month
Mine is on a flat drive way and I start it every few weeks. It look's identical to what you have. The longest I have gone is around a month
#18
+1 on what has been said allready.
My truck puts out just as much water if not more than that. I think the tick being heard is normal too. Headers amplify valve train noise quite a bit. Take your honey on a road trip, and burn up all that old gas. You should be fine.
My truck puts out just as much water if not more than that. I think the tick being heard is normal too. Headers amplify valve train noise quite a bit. Take your honey on a road trip, and burn up all that old gas. You should be fine.
#19
Here is the cr
1 190
3 200
5 185
7 184
2 200
4 210
6 205
8 202
Joseph-I ran 3/4 tank of fresh 91 through it. It sat with about 2 gallons of fuel for six months. I tried to get most of the fuel out before i did the new 80 swap in case i ran into issues. I know fuel goes bad but how long would it typically take to get rid of the old fuel.
Also I ran a can of Lucas fuel treatment through it so I am wondering if the Lucas broke down the sludge too fast which is why I have all the oily/fuely crap on the plug threads. After taking the plugs back out to do the compression test the ground electrode on some of them seem to be a little white in color.
So after the info on cr does it look likeI should still do a Leakdown test? Could it be just a valve adjustment?
1 190
3 200
5 185
7 184
2 200
4 210
6 205
8 202
Joseph-I ran 3/4 tank of fresh 91 through it. It sat with about 2 gallons of fuel for six months. I tried to get most of the fuel out before i did the new 80 swap in case i ran into issues. I know fuel goes bad but how long would it typically take to get rid of the old fuel.
Also I ran a can of Lucas fuel treatment through it so I am wondering if the Lucas broke down the sludge too fast which is why I have all the oily/fuely crap on the plug threads. After taking the plugs back out to do the compression test the ground electrode on some of them seem to be a little white in color.
So after the info on cr does it look likeI should still do a Leakdown test? Could it be just a valve adjustment?
#20
One more thing, I am going to throw some new plugs in there while I am at it. Should I go with stock plugs or run a different heat range. Vortech suggests running stock with their supercharger. Here is what their website says:
What spark plugs should I use with a Vortech supercharger system?
Always utilize the stock specified heat range for street legal applications. For continuous heavy-duty racing, off road use only, use one heat range colder than stock and reduce the gap to 0.032 to .040". (NOTE: the gap requirement varies per the application and intended use). It is suggested that you follow the manufacturers suggested recommendation for spark plugs. Do not use platinum plugs, as they are considered long life spark plugs and are not performance spark plugs. For higher performance engines, consult the spark plug manufacturers for their specific suggestions.)
What spark plugs should I use with a Vortech supercharger system?
Always utilize the stock specified heat range for street legal applications. For continuous heavy-duty racing, off road use only, use one heat range colder than stock and reduce the gap to 0.032 to .040". (NOTE: the gap requirement varies per the application and intended use). It is suggested that you follow the manufacturers suggested recommendation for spark plugs. Do not use platinum plugs, as they are considered long life spark plugs and are not performance spark plugs. For higher performance engines, consult the spark plug manufacturers for their specific suggestions.)