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Old 07-21-2006 | 05:07 PM
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I've been running an SD tune with the MAF still place for quite a while now....late yesterday evening I removed the MAF completely from the intake tract but still left it plugged in and sitting near the filter to keep the IAT sensor sort of half-assed working.

All I can say is WOW !!!

Using the pid in HPTuners for delivered torque (which I know is not accurate...but it's at least consistant in its inaccuracy so it can be used to detect changes) I was never able to get above 345 ft/lbs with the MAF in place....in a direct comparison on the same road yesterday evening 15 minutes apart I went from 341ft/lbs @ 4400rpm with the MAF installed to 374ft/lbs @ 4400rpm with the MAF removed (in both cases the IAT was reading 121º)...that's just shy of a 10% gain in power !!!

I unfortunatly cannot see grams/cyl now because there is no MAF reading to derive that number from so I can't give you an actual airflow gain....but I CAN tell you that it pulls MUCH harder from 2800 rpm on up to the shift at 6000 than it EVER did before

I'm running a screened 85mm MAF (stock 6.0)....I'm absolutely stunned that it it's that much of a restriction on a baby-cammed 6.0, I can only imagine how bad it's got to be on guys running 224's and bigger. I'm considering a 235/239 .575 lift cam....trying to run that through the MAF would be pointless !!

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Old 07-21-2006 | 05:12 PM
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Why not just wire a new IAT sensor into the tract somewhere. I did that to mine to get a better reading of the cooling effect of the meth injection and eliminate timing pull due to high IATs.
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Old 07-21-2006 | 05:13 PM
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Why not just wire a new IAT sensor into the tract somewhere. I did that to mine to get a better reading of the cooling effect of the meth injection and eliminate timing pull due to high IATs.
I'm working on that...I ordered a '99 Corvette IAT sensor that I'll wire in as soon as it gets here and rid myself of the MAF completely
Old 07-21-2006 | 05:14 PM
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Interesting, might have to try that this weekend.
I'm also running in SD right now w/ the stock MAF in place.

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Why not just wire a new IAT sensor into the tract somewhere. I did that to mine to get a better reading of the cooling effect of the meth injection and eliminate timing pull due to high IATs.
I am going to go this route someday.
Old 07-21-2006 | 07:32 PM
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Yelo, I replied on tech too, but here it is again.

You can pull the sensor out of the maf with a pair of needle nose pliers. Then just drill a small hole and install the sensor wherever you want. I put mine just infront of my TB so that it would read the temp after my meth injection. I have an aluminum tube, so I used JB Weld. It isn't the neatest way, but it worked pretty well.

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Old 07-21-2006 | 07:59 PM
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very interesting.
Old 07-21-2006 | 08:15 PM
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Best place for a MAF if you're running SD is in the garabage can
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Or you could do this if you want to retain that "MAF still there" look...

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did your timing change any?

which other tables reference the maf sensor that may have been affected?
Old 07-21-2006 | 09:32 PM
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Nothing changed except my trims which went positive due to the increased airflow....I'm running SD so the MAF is disabled, all I did was change it's location to OUTSIDE the air-tract



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